Will I get anything outta this crap?

crunchie12268 · May 3, 2005

Well, don't have much I can do to my car and keep it naturally aspirated so I was thinking about these little things. I was wondering if anybody has any expierence with them.

Motorvation Throttle Body Spacer (basically the tornado thing)

Caspers Electronic Throttle Body Enchancer

A/C Eliminator, Eliminate Smog, Condenser etc.

Trickflow 3/8" Spacer

and that about does it, it is cheap and according to all the descriptions on each product I should have an additional 50hp

I was wondering if anybody has any expierence with this stuff, or if I should get it and fill everybody in.

Thanks Alot

Car RamRod · May 3, 2005

tornado's and the like are no good.
dunno about 2
3 will save you some wieght, but unless ac is on there is basically no parasitic loss.
4 wouldnt hurt

BaXTeR3221 · May 3, 2005

Agreed. First two are basically gimicks. Dropping the weight helps the balance of the car as well as power/ratio. Spacer might also help, nothin tremendous though.

crunchie12268 · May 4, 2005

MrKwik · May 4, 2005

If you get 50hp from those mods, I will eat my own ass.

Those TB spacers and stuff are just snake oil. Removing the A/C and smog will save some weight off the nose of the car but the A/C only sucks power when its on so there is no real HP gain by losing it.

tunedin302 · May 4, 2005

The only one that is somewhat noticable is bypassing the emission pump. If you have a/c then you can just run a a shorter belt and bypass the smog pump. If not, then you will have to get a pulley in place of the pump.

FastDriver · May 4, 2005

You can run without A/C or emissions by bracketing the power steering pump to run from where the A/C used to.

Also, even when A/C is on, I am under the impression that it cuts out so that under WOT the A/C doesn't draw any power.

Pulling the A/C off is actually pretty nice weight savings. The compressor is heavy and with all the lines, it adds up to about 70lbs off of the nose of the car.

darthcual · May 4, 2005

My opinion is go w/ a phenolic spacer, It definately helped keep my upper intake cooler. And when i say cooler i mean teh difference between not being able to touch it after running around in my car to working on it as soon as i pull the parking brake and get out.

crunchie12268 · May 4, 2005

MrKwik said:
If you get 50hp from those mods, I will eat my own ass.

It was sarcasm

Nobody has said anything about the Casper's Electronic Throttle Enchancer, I have found nobody who has tested this thing. And you guys talked me out of the Tornado thing... good job.

Thanks for the help

90mustangGT · May 4, 2005

The tornado and that spacer, just crap from what I've heard. I can't say I have had any expereince with it or know anyone who has. Maby people have but no one is brave enough to admit it. If they really did what they claim they do, they would come stock.

The throttle enhanser is actually a device that when the TPS hits 60%, it sends out a WOT reading. Someone who frequents this site (can't remember who) has one and says it does improve throttle response, and I am sure it would. HP gains, I don't think so.

Eliminating the smog pump and A/C gave me a suprising SOTP gain, and it showed at the track. I think it's really the weight reduction. The compressors on foxes are now light like many new cars. If your's works and it's a D/D, keep it but otherwise scrap it. Also, deleting P/S and going to a manual rack saves a lot of weight and frees up a considerable power, and an electric W/P is a good gain as well. Not to mention all this cleans up the engine bay.

The spacer, reduces heat to the upper intake, colder air is better for making power.

crunchie12268 · May 4, 2005

thanks for the response 90mustangGT

My A/C is dead and needs to be rebuilt, I am just taking it off to save weight, same with smog... I am hoping by losing all that I can lower times. But even if that Tornado thing saves gas mileage, it would be great.

But I will save the money, thanks guys

90mustangGT · May 4, 2005

crunchie12268 said:
thanks for the response 90mustangGT

My A/C is dead and needs to be rebuilt, I am just taking it off to save weight, same with smog... I am hoping by losing all that I can lower times. But even if that Tornado thing saves gas mileage, it would be great.

But I will save the money, thanks guys

Delete it. Even if you put on a new compressor, the R12 is very expensive, hard to find. R134a properly retrofitted will work but will not cool near as well in a R12 system because R134a requires much higher pressures. Also, when a compressor goes bad it usually spits debris into the system which can clog passages and acts like a sandblaster to the new compressor, shortening it's life. So basically, the right way is to replace the whole system, expensive, does not add power!

DJTR · May 4, 2005

you could also buy a ...... grumble..... *mumbles* Turbonator...... You know one of those electric supercharger things (scrap)

ninty1gt · May 5, 2005

i owne the enhancer, it works, i felt the affect, i dont have to drop it to first anymore, it picks up in drive pretty well

jpyjfrdmstng · May 5, 2005

get your wifes hair blower and rig it up on the end of your intake, that even makes more sense than the turbonator and it also costs about the same ( or free if you have the balls to steal your wifes hair blower)

crunchie12268 · May 6, 2005

I will probably get the throttle enchancer and the spacer and the A/C Delete

crazypete · May 6, 2005

Get some used FMS gears 3.73 or 4.10 for $100 and hammer them in. They'll do more than all that stuff put together.

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