Won't start / Hazzards flashing ???

Johnnyholeshot

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OK, I haven't even started trouble shooting yet, but I'm hoping to get a quick answer here. Today I went out to start my 90 LX (5.0 / AOD), but when I did the battery was dead. I went to get my battery charger in order to charge and/or jump start it, but as soon as I connected the charger I noticed the hazzards stared flashing. At this point I assumed I had simply turned them on by mistake and ran the battery down. Nope, that's not it. When I checked the hazzards were not on. I also am unable to jump start the car no matter how long I pre-charge the battery. I've tried another battery, but I have the same problem. Any ideas?
 
Here's a checklist:

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…

Check battery, terminal connections, ground, starter relay switch (also known as solenoid) and starter in that order.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem.
See http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103 for help
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1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery.

2.) Check the battery to engine block ground, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter relay next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it starts, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems. See http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195963.gif for 88-90 year cars .OR see http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/large/0900823d80195964.gif for 91-93 year cars. See http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiB..._us/0900823d/80/1d/db/3c/0900823d801ddb3c.jsp for 94-95 model cars.

6.) The starter may be hung, loosen up the bolts that hold it on, and give it a good whack with a big hammer. Tighten up the bolts and try again.

7.) If that doesn't work, use a jumper cable from the positive lead on the battery direct to the starter post where the big wire from the relay connects. If it cranks then, it is the power wire from the relay gone bad. This will be hard to do, since there isn't much room to do it.

8.) Pull the starter and take it to Autozone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.
 
JB66 said:
Are there any "other than factory" items inatalled on your car???
For me yeah I run a bazooka amped bass tube, and a host of autometers. You need to find what the item is that's putting the drain on the battery..if it's the hazards, then pulling the fuse on the hazards should put an end to that..the relay/fuse/wiring/switch could be all done. There is obvioulsy a draw on the battery..you just need to determine what it is..maybe an interior light..glovebox light..hatch is ajar..amp is staying on..or as you stated hazards activated even with the switch in the off position. For my problem I had to resort to taking my alt to be bench tested...found was a bad diode in the alt drawing the battery while sitting. But first you need to get a good 12.5 slow charge into that battery before continuing in my opinion that being with the hazard fuse removed from the fuse box, then go from there.

Edit too late the above post is the guy who can do you the most good.