Three50won
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- Jul 11, 2010
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Dude, I wasn't coming at you. If you have personal experience with this subject then I take your word for it. I have personal experience dictating the opposite. If you're saying that you can take a bone stock average condition Fox and go 12s with less than $2,000 then you gets mad respect...from me at least.Mine isn't theoretical or hypothetical. It's been done so many times I couldn't count that high. I have seen it done many times with my friends cars and watched them go down the track. If someone bought a tf top end kit brand new for 2500, what are you willing to pay for it used????
I don't even have a wideband or half the **** you guys claim is necessary. How many factory boosted cars do???
My car nor these other cars I've ridden
In, worked on and seem make 12 second passes are bombs or 1/4 mile specific. Read my posts again. They were street trim. As is mine. I have AC, power windows, locks, mirrors etc etc thus showing you I know what street trim is. And for that matter, my 88 GT I bought factory had no AC or power windows, thus also meaning street trim doesn't necessitate those.
Lastly, he's owned 4 stangs. If Hes owned Legos and 4 stangs he has the skills to put a top end kit on. It's not rocket science.
And by street legal/streetable/track worthy I'm talking about building a car with creature comforts that will be reliable every day. So I'm sure you can skip out on a FPR or an AFR gauge or a fuel pressure gauge...or have a boosted engine with no vacuum/boost gauge for that matter...still tho, that car will not be the most reliable. I wouldn't drive that car for more than 5 minutes around town. I mean how could you consider a modded forced induction or N/A engine to be reliable when you have no idea how much boost you're making, if there's a vacuum issue, how much pressure you fuel injectors are getting, how lean you're running, etc. You can't just skip out on these things and talk about 12 second passes for less than $2000.
What I'm saying is that your estimate is like when MM&FF says they can build a 600 hp engine for less than x amount of money. They don't factor in a lot of things that quickly add up. Little odds and ends, tools, etc. There are soo many things that can turn a small budget project into a relatively costly one. That's all I'm sayin...but again, I'm not coming at you. Everyone has their own idea of a budget build. I just feel that a budget 12 second budget build should still include everything necessary to make the car reliable and keep you aware of the engines overall condition.