1977 Mustang II Ghia Sport emissions question

I have a 77 Ghia Sport, 302, automatic. When I purchased the car, it did not have a smog pump on it, nor does it look like it’s ever had one. Can someone tell me if this car came without emissions (smog pump)? The reason I ask is, in order to pass emissions here in Illinois, it must have all original factory emissions controls intact.
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Of all the IIs I've had over the years I don't remember any of them having a smog pump. I believe the only IIs that had them were the California destined cars. I think they were also the only IIs that had that variable venturi carburetor too. :shrug:
 
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My original 78 302 which is long gone had a smog pump. It had a metal pipe between the back of the heads running to the pump which was under the alternator. It was not a california car. It was removed 30 years ago so I don't rememeber much else.
 
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My original 78 302 which is long gone had a smog pump. It had a metal pipe between the back of the heads running to the pump which was under the alternator. It was not a california car. It was removed 30 years ago so I don't rememeber much else.
None of my IIs had smog pumps by the time I got them, but I know my '76 had one when it left the factory, as it also had A.I.R. tubes.
 
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I bought that one in 1985 iirc. When I got it it was all original except the battery. Tires were even original and shot. Smoked like a freight train with bad valve seals. It had the pump.
My 76 had the pump now that I think about it. The pump was bypassed when I got it too. I never had to work on that cars engine so it still had it when I sold it. Neither were California cars.
They were outrageously expensive and would lock up frequently. Thus they were removed promptly.
 
Yours may not have had it. I don't know the ins and outs of which ones got them but I am fairly certain not all did receive them. My friends '75 had no air pump. It had a lot of work done to it before we came into possession of it though. I do know the two I owned in the 80's were unmolested when I got my hands on them back then. Both were Ohio cars. One ended up a loud and obnoxious '78 and one a first date safe stock '76. I know the one came from a DSO in Michigan. They were not California cars. Both had less then 75,ooo miles when I got them. Both had failed pumps. The '76 I never touched the engine. It's AIR pump was bypassed already. The '78 I rebuilt the drivetrain so it all came off and I had to get the plugs for the heads and a shorter fan belt.

It was a matter of an hour and removing a few bolts to get pump off, a bolt or two for the AIR lines and two bolts holding the lines to the back of the head. Once removed you installed threaded plugs that were about $5.00 into the heads and bought a fan belt for the cars without the pump. Some just smashed the AIR lines to stop them leaking but the plugs were readily available and cheap.

Is your state really that strict on this old of a car? I was an AIMS tester here in Ohio back in the '80's. I thought most states have exceptions for cars this old. We haven't had emissions test here in Ohio for 20 years now so I am out of the loop. When we did have them anything older then 25 y/o were exempt.

Can you register it as a collector or historic vehicle and avoid the inspection? Only pursue these if your are not planning a daily driver. Here in Ohio I technically cannot drive it to the store or just to visit a friend using historical tags. Only to a mechanic or a parade/show and less then 2,500 miles a year. I will have regular plates for this car which is a travesty in my opinion.
 
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Were the plugs on the back of the head painted blue to match the heads? If so I bet yours did not have the AIR pump. If they are metal in color they were most likely added later.
 
BTW treat that battery tray. Get some rust converter and get paint on it. They rust out. My current car is mostly rust free. No holes at all but I had to cut what was left of the battery tray out.
 
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Yours may not have had it. I don't know the ins and outs of which ones got them but I am fairly certain not all did receive them. My friends '75 had no air pump. It had a lot of work done to it before we came into possession of it though. I do know the two I owned in the 80's were unmolested when I got my hands on them back then. Both were Ohio cars. One ended up a loud and obnoxious '78 and one a first date safe stock '76. I know the one came from a DSO in Michigan. They were not California cars. Both had less then 75,ooo miles when I got them. Both had failed pumps. The '76 I never touched the engine. It's AIR pump was bypassed already. The '78 I rebuilt the drivetrain so it all came off and I had to get the plugs for the heads and a shorter fan belt.

It was a matter of an hour and removing a few bolts to get pump off, a bolt or two for the AIR lines and two bolts holding the lines to the back of the head. Once removed you installed threaded plugs that were about $5.00 into the heads and bought a fan belt for the cars without the pump. Some just smashed the AIR lines to stop them leaking but the plugs were readily available and cheap.

Is your state really that strict on this old of a car? I was an AIMS tester here in Ohio back in the '80's. I thought most states have exceptions for cars this old. We haven't had emissions test here in Ohio for 20 years now so I am out of the loop. When we did have them anything older then 25 y/o were exempt.

Can you register it as a collector or historic vehicle and avoid the inspection? Only pursue these if your are not planning a daily driver. Here in Ohio I technically cannot drive it to the store or just to visit a friend using historical tags. Only to a mechanic or a parade/show and less then 2,500 miles a year. I will have regular plates for this car which is a travesty in my opinion.
Yeah, Illinois is strict. 1968 and newer are subject to emissions. Older cars like the II’s have c a basic test and visual inspection to make sure the have original equipment. I can register it as a classic, but I can’t drive it November through March if licensed as a classic.


BTW treat that battery tray. Get some rust converter and get paint on it. They rust out. My current car is mostly rust free. No holes at all but I had to cut what was left of the battery tray out.
Yes, that’s info I would share with anyone else as well. My engine bay is treated and painted.
 
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lol. Here I am giving you advice. Yours is nicely done. Mine was cut out, treated for rust and hit with a rattle can. I relocated the battery to avoid rebuilding it. The bonus was weight and heat benefits.

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lol. Here I am giving you advice. Yours is nicely done. Mine was cut out, treated for rust and hit with a rattle can. I relocated the battery to avoid rebuilding it. The bonus was weight and heat benefits.

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Yours looks good. I thought about going black, but figured the engine bay was already stripped and I had the paint, so just spray body color. My rust in the battery tray was minimal, I did have to replace the entire drivers side apron because it rusted out towards the top. That was the only rust repair on this car though.
 
I bought a new dampner and now my pulleys don't line up. I went through my parts bin and found my old II pulleys. The crank pulley has three belt places. The inner most pulley was for the AIR pump alone. Does your crank pulley have 3 belts? I also went thruough my haynes manual and the reference pic for the v8 shows the 3 belts and air pump.
 
I have a II crank pulley with just 2 belts I am using today. That implies cars with 3 pulleys had the air pump. I don't remember where the 2 belt pulley came from but it was probably a '75 I stripped 25 years ago. Keep in mind ford did funny things now and then. My Cobra has regular interior door panels due to part shortages in '77. They did not stop the lines, they just substituted the next closest part available.

I have to wonder though. If we cannot figure out if it had it how will they? Can you contact them and see what they say the car is supposed to have?