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Progress Thread 12th Owner: My '93 Notchback Restoration & Performance Build

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from6to8

There's suction so I used that end O_O
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Habu135 said:
This is why this site is so high quality - The brotherhood helping to make our cars better.
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yup and definitely seems like a friendlier place than the corral lol. I mean there are some guys there that are helpful and don't ge their panties in bunches often as some others are notorious for so all in all I just deal with those who care to help without pumping their chest out all the time.....
 

from6to8

There's suction so I used that end O_O
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General karthief said:
Rare occasion when I'm wrong, I can take it and we both learned something,......
Now what da hell were we take'n bout?
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lol all good
 

from6to8

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Noobz347 said:
What's funny is that it doesn't come up all that often. Folks are either getting the right bolts with their parts or extremely lucky. You would think that we'd see threads about that thing specifically, more often.

It's been some time since I had to install a water pump but when I did, I'd ordered a quality bolt kit before hand knowing all my stuff was from the factory so, I didn't run into this issue or even learn about it until later.
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yeah it's been a minute since I've had to change one out on any of the Stangs. Most recent maybe 3 yrs ago on my Nissan frontier though....
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Being nice and all that is over rated and too much work.
 
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Noobz347 said:
Dudes used to get Cobra, GT-40, and Explorer plenums, extrude honed all the time.

They usually clean up the ports by hand, hook it up to the machine, and push abrasive Playdough through it until they get the inside diameter they're after.
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Before The performer RPM and the RPMII intakes were available, my buddies shop's goto was extrude honed cobra intakes.
I didn't think it could be done on a gt40 tubular upper though, just the lower which would most likely make it pointless in that case.
Back in the day i ran a set of extrude honed twisted wedges.

Habu, if you have an intake that you like and want to run, personally i would send it to them.
Probably regardless of cost, just keep in mind i subscribe to buy once, cry once theory these days.
I'm getting older and doing things two and three time itself was getting old.
 
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Have you thought about having the upper professionally ported? Tom Moss has ported a lot of them.

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Spoke to Tom on a fb thread not long ago - he said they have hung up the carbide bits and retired

I think my box r lower was one of the last intakes they did honestly.
 
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Is that timing cover/waterpump bolt kit from LMR good? I believe they are ARP bolts if im not mistaken.
 

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Is that timing cover/waterpump bolt kit from LMR good? I believe they are ARP bolts if im not mistaken.
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while we are on this subject I forgot and believe I already bought, actually a quick look at my list for the 331 build I have not bought a pump yet. I'll have to buy a pump but will likely reuse the oem hardware....
 
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lube between the nut and the face. I know my lubes
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They are ARP. Have them on both my cars.

With regards to the backing plate bolts I was taught by my dad to keep the stock ones. Guess it was a problem back then as well.
 
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Dropped the Trick Flow Series R intake off at Extrude Hone AFM on Monday. Cost, including a 10% military discount, was $671.29. Here is a before shot looking down the throttle body opening of the 90mm intake.

Here's a Super Ford article on the Extrude Hone process from October, 1996.

Super-Ford-Magazine-1996.pdf https://share.google/PRZkMmRge7k9epXyJ

 
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Got the intake back from Extrude Hone AFM. Interior of the intake is significantly smoother and the ports are clearly larger - see attached photo. A fairly large portion of abrasive material was left in the center runner, and it took quite of bit of time and effort to remove and flush it out using solvent. The front and rear freeze plugs weren't removed by the technician, and had I just called it good and installed the intake it may have turned out catastrophic. I ended up removing the freeze plugs easily with a nail set and hammer. Dyno tune on Friday (3 July), but the butt dyno says not much was gained.

 
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Dyno tune complete. Car picked up 12 hp and 24 tq, 3% and 6% gains respectively, for a total of 412 rwhp and 421 torque. I'm very happy with the overall numbers from the N/A 363.


 
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from6to8

There's suction so I used that end O_O
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Habu135 said:
Dyno tune complete. Car picked up 12 hp and 21 tq for a total of 412 rwhp and 421 torque. I'm very happy with the overall number from a N/A 363.


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Not bad not bad at all. My 331 Vortech build currently for the 95 will let me know what to do for the 200k vortech engine that's in the 94 right now. That's when I need an engine for it. Right now she's still holding pretty strong from the vortec install about 3 months ago .

Might think about a 363 or if not I might do a big bore 347 with a dart possibly
 
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I am most impressed with that torque curve on an N/A build.

That's pretty amazing.
 
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Noobz347 said:
I am most impressed with that torque curve on an N/A build.

That's pretty amazing.
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Yes, it's always fun to scare a passenger by spinning the tires well into third gear.
 

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There's suction so I used that end O_O
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Yes, it's always fun to scare a passenger by spinning the tires well into third gear.
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would you say it's a certain hp/tq level at minimum that would spin the tires in 3rd? Let me see what chat gpt says lol. I don't necessarily make a habit of spinning tires but have in 2nd playing around some lol
 

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looks like 400 ish-


A 1994 Ford Mustang GT typically needs roughly 400 to 450 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque at the wheels to cleanly spin the tires rolling into third gear. A stock 1994 Mustang GT made only 215 hp and 285 lb-ft of torque, which is far too low to break traction in 3rd gear without aggressively dumping the clutch or driving on wet/slick pavement.
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from6to8 said:
looks like 400 ish-


A 1994 Ford Mustang GT typically needs roughly 400 to 450 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque at the wheels to cleanly spin the tires rolling into third gear. A stock 1994 Mustang GT made only 215 hp and 285 lb-ft of torque, which is far too low to break traction in 3rd gear without aggressively dumping the clutch or driving on wet/slick pavement.
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There would be a number of other factors that would help in the lack of traction as well. Road temperature, rear tire tread, humidity, ambient temperature, number of passengers, and even how much fuel in is the fuel tank.
 

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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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There would be a number of other factors that would help in the lack of traction as well. Road temperature, rear tire tread, humidity, ambient temperature, number of passengers, and even how much fuel in is the fuel tank.
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Yeah well 800 hp don't care about none of that crap
 
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