Paint and Body 1962 Impala - Bodywork

Noobz347 · Jun 2, 2017

Nowadays you can make a crap beer, call it, "Anal Cooties" and watch it fly off the shelf.

You don't get to looking like Dave by pounding bottled water.

RaggedGT · Jun 2, 2017

That a dead bird in the fridge?

Davedacarpainter · Jun 2, 2017

Yeah, the living one kept flying out when i would get a beer.

02 281 GT · Jun 2, 2017

karthief said:
Where do people come up with these names?
Fat Tire
Dirty Bastard
Busch Beer (not really a strange name, just sounds cheap)
Toe Jamb (just made that one up)

I think there are a lot of hipsters in the craft beer scene. That would at least explain all the "artsy" labels and weird/ironic beer names.

General karthief · Jun 3, 2017

02 281 GT said:
I think there are a lot of hipsters in the craft beer scene. That would at least explain all the "artsy" labels and weird/ironic beer names.

More like drunk'n jokers.

CarMichael Angelo · Jun 3, 2017

karthief said:
Where do people come up with these names?
Fat Tire
Dirty Bastard
Busch Beer (not really a strange name, just sounds cheap)
Toe Jamb (just made that one up)

Hmmm,.....A name like Busch,...God pidy da fool that came up w/ that cheap assed sounding name for a beer....
Then we wouldn't have the other half for Anheuser, to stick their cheap sounding name in front of either.

Then there'd be no:
Budweiser/Bud Light/Michelob/Michelob Light/Rolling Rock/Rolling Rock Light/ Natural/ Natty Light/Shock Top/Landshark/Johhny Appleseed/ and of course......Busch/Busch Light.
( not that that's not entirely a bad thing...)

We also wouldn't have a single named major sponsor for an entire Grand National Stock Car racing series, for a bagillion rednecks to have something to watch while they drink one of those cheap assed sounding beers either.

General karthief · Jun 3, 2017

madmike1157 said:
Hmmm,.....A name like Busch,...God pidy da fool that came up w/ that cheap assed sounding name for a beer....
Then we wouldn't have the other half for Anheuser, to stick their cheap sounding name in front of either.

Then there'd be no:
Budweiser/Bud Light/Michelob/Michelob Light/Rolling Rock/Rolling Rock Light/ Natural/ Natty Light/Shock Top/Landshark/Johhny Appleseed/ and of course......Busch/Busch Light.
( not that that's not entirely a bad thing...)

We also wouldn't have a single named major sponsor for an entire Grand National Stock Car racing series, for a bagillion rednecks to have something to watch while they drink one of those cheap assed sounding beers either.

Davedacarpainter · Jun 3, 2017

I'm getting ready to head out to Sand Springs to paint that BMW this morning. I got it prepped last night after I shot the Acadia.

So, you may ask yourself, what's all this talk about Acadia's, BMW X5's, Explorer's..... Isn't this thread about a 1962 Impala SS?

Same thoughts are running through my head right now....This guy talks a lot while I'm working, you may not believe this, but I would rather not talk at all while I'm working on a vehicle. I LIKE to focus on what i'm doing, almost to the point that a millennial might come up with some sort of syndrome for me. My mind can do what a chick might call "multi-task". It's what I think of as giving the subject at hand half a thought, or a quarter of a thought while you're pondering other issues.

I hate this. I want to give what I think is important my full attention. If i've decided that something is worthy of me spending months of my time on, leave me the fck alone and let me work!

This fellow has all sorts of plans of what he wants. He's thinking he wants to have his own bodyshop and is already including me in his plans. He'll find out I'm not planning the same thing later. He tells me he's going to bring in all sorts of jobs he wants to work on. Meaning he thinks I'm going to paint them for him. I think he has an idea he might own me a bit. This is in addition to me doing the impala.

What the fck have I gotten myself involved in?

I'm working three nights a week (I leave work and drive the 25 miles to his place), generally working till 10:00. Then, like today, I'm leaving to work at least nine hours out there on my Saturdays. He's acting like I'll do this forever.

I'm a little frustrated right now. I haven't touched the Impala the last two times I've been out there.

I'm three weeks into this seven week deal. He will have four weeks left of using me.

Then the price tag for Dave goes way up. I needed the money he was offering for the Impala to make up for the past several months of slow times at my job.

Work seems to finally be picking up again. It's not quite as strong as it was before, but it's getting close.

I turn 55 this month, I don't wish to work myself to death in my last years of working. Unless, of course, I'm working on my cars that I want for me to drive. Seeing a completed project that will be mine through to the finish is easier than trying to adapt someone else's dreams to mine.

Long story short. I'm going to have to get this fella to leave me the fck alone so I can work on the Impala or it won't be finished by me.

I'm a little disappointed already by the limits of this job. He wants a spectacular paint job, but he's not wanting to do all the necessary things to make it spectacular.

Remember how i mudded the fender?
The mud could have been almost eliminated by taking out the inner bracing and repairing the skin, then tack welding the braces back on. He doesn't want anything to do with that.

So what he really wants is a really nice paint job, not what I consider a real restoration.

So, if I get to work on the Impala again soon, what you'll see is me making due with the limitations I'm given. More can be done, but I probably won't be doing the full psycho on it.

It'll look good if I get to finish it, but I'll know it could have been better. Oh well, as long as he keeps paying me.

Once I'm done with this though, it'll either be my way, or find another painter.

Sorry about the rant. I gotta get my shoes on so I can go mask that X5 and shoot it.

CarMichael Angelo · Jun 3, 2017

Davedacarpainter said:
I'm getting ready to head out to Sand Springs to paint that BMW this morning. I got it prepped last night after I shot the Acadia.

So, you may ask yourself, what's all this talk about Acadia's, BMW X5's, Explorer's..... Isn't this thread about a 1962 Impala SS?

Same thoughts are running through my head right now....This guy talks a lot while I'm working, you may not believe this, but I would rather not talk at all while I'm working on a vehicle. I LIKE to focus on what i'm doing, almost to the point that a millennial might come up with some sort of syndrome for me. My mind can do what a chick might call "multi-task". It's what I think of as giving the subject at hand half a thought, or a quarter of a thought while you're pondering other issues.

I hate this. I want to give what I think is important my full attention. If i've decided that something is worthy of me spending months of my time on, leave me the fck alone and let me work!

This fellow has all sorts of plans of what he wants. He's thinking he wants to have his own bodyshop and is already including me in his plans. He'll find out I'm not planning the same thing later. He tells me he's going to bring in all sorts of jobs he wants to work on. Meaning he thinks I'm going to paint them for him. I think he has an idea he might own me a bit. This is in addition to me doing the impala.

What the fck have I gotten myself involved in?

I'm working three nights a week (I leave work and drive the 25 miles to his place), generally working till 10:00. Then, like today, I'm leaving to work at least nine hours out there on my Saturdays. He's acting like I'll do this forever.

I'm a little frustrated right now. I haven't touched the Impala the last two times I've been out there.

I'm three weeks into this seven week deal. He will have four weeks left of using me.

Then the price tag for Dave goes way up. I needed the money he was offering for the Impala to make up for the past several months of slow times at my job.

Work seems to finally be picking up again. It's not quite as strong as it was before, but it's getting close.

I turn 55 this month, I don't wish to work myself to death in my last years of working. Unless, of course, I'm working on my cars that I want for me to drive. Seeing a completed project that will be mine through to the finish is easier than trying to adapt someone else's dreams to mine.

Long story short. I'm going to have to get this fella to leave me the fck alone so I can work on the Impala or it won't be finished by me.

I'm a little disappointed already by the limits of this job. He wants a spectacular paint job, but he's not wanting to do all the necessary things to make it spectacular.

Remember how i mudded the fender?
The mud could have been almost eliminated by taking out the inner bracing and repairing the skin, then tack welding the braces back on. He doesn't want anything to do with that.

So what he really wants is a really nice paint job, not what I consider a real restoration.

So, if I get to work on the Impala again soon, what you'll see is me making due with the limitations I'm given. More can be done, but I probably won't be doing the full psycho on it.

It'll look good if I get to finish it, but I'll know it could have been better. Oh well, as long as he keeps paying me.

Once I'm done with this though, it'll either be my way, or find another painter.

Sorry about the rant. I gotta get my shoes on so I can go mask that X5 and shoot it.

Dave, Dave,... Dave...........

Just do this:

Don't come over the next time. Then again on the next night,..Then again for one week.

When he calls you asking WTF,..tell him that you need to talk and explain to him that

YOU AINT HIS BTCH!!!!

* send .25 to: ASK Mike, C/O I'm not yo daddy incorporated,..1314 Stopurbitchin, AL.

General karthief · Jun 3, 2017

I feel dave will sit him down and give him the rules of the 'game' soon enought. He's a nice guy after all. The chatterbox will get the idea.

Davedacarpainter · Jun 3, 2017

Welllllll.......i got some stuff done today. I got that X5 shot and buffed the Acadia I painted last night.

Another learning experience today. The "Guy" ordered the paint though I had asked him to tell me the paint code so I could research the color a little bit.

He saw that the factory paint job on the fenders was a little more yellow then the doors. So he told the paint jobber that he wanted the farthest from yellow variant that they had.

In reality, the fenders were a little bit more yellow than the doors. If we use the door as the standard, they were a little bluer/less yellow than the fenders.

If you tell the jobber that you want the farthest from yellow they have, what they'll do is look for the most reddish/blue (purple) variant. Purple is the opposite of the color wheel. It cancels yellow out.

So, the paint he gets is this wonderful shade of purple that is nothing like what's on the car.

I allow myself the opportunity to remind him that I told him so.

Regardless, I need to paint this sob. What to do? The Acadia I painted last night was a three stage white pearl as well. I decide to mix and match. It seemed to work out for the first layer. Then there is the pearl topcoat that needs to be sprayed after.....

Oh hell YESSSSS, It's purple enough to make me want to donate to whatever cancer cause uses the color purple for their fund raisers.

Up on a shelf there's another can with about a pint of leftover pearl from another beemer that I shot a while back. It's not so freaking purple, what do I have to loose at this point. I had just enough for three coats. I sprayed it on the X5. Worst case scenario is that I have to repaint it. What happens then?

In my eyes, I see the base color is too light. Oddly enough, the pearl is pretty nice though. I blend it all out and get the "Guy" (TG form here on) and have him look. He doesn't see any problem at all. So, for now.

Why not a little bit of Impala stuff now. After shooting the X5 and buffing the Acadia it was about noon. I finally get to work on my birth vehicle (it and I were both born in '62).

I wanted to get the driver's door jamb stripped and in epoxy by the end of the day. Hi ho, hi ho, it's time to strip (there you go Noobz).

The PR had goobered up a crap load of seam sealer around the edges of the jamb. I was curious why.

I know why now, they had blasted the rot previously and not replaced the metal! They had actually tack welded the remnants to the outer skin!

Look back at those pictures again. Look closely and I bet your head starts shaking like mine did.

Oh well. What should have been done is to cutout those rotted sections and form a new piece and weld it in like a grownup would do. Damn!

My time was getting limited at this stage and I was getting tired so I finished stripping the rest of the jamb.

You might notice the center of the jamb wasn't stripped. That's because TG didn't want to take the freaking glass out.

AAAAHHHHHH! Oh well, mine is not to question why, mine is to block, primer and paint.

In the end, I just sprayed a coat of epoxy primer on it just to protect the bare metal.
A good thing, I talked to TG about getting another painter in to shoot the little crap he insists to bring in. I think i have him seeing things my way.

Davedacarpainter · Jun 3, 2017

Btw, I used a fiber wheel on a die grinder for the major part of the stripping, a wire wheel on a drill for the seam sealer. Then I used my handy dandy sandblaster to clean up the ugly areas.

Davedacarpainter · Jun 3, 2017

Oh yeah, third payment today, I rewarded myself. 128 proof! Woohoo!

02 281 GT · Jun 3, 2017

Davedacarpainter said:
You might notice the center of the jamb wasn't stripped. That's because TG didn't want to take the freaking glass out. AAAAHHHHHH! Oh well, mine is not to question why, mine is to block, primer and paint.

Thus continues the charge of the painter brigade.

It's looking really good considering the limitations being placed on you.

Davedacarpainter · Jun 4, 2017

02 281 GT said:
Thus continues the charge of the painter brigade.

It's looking really good considering the limitations being placed on you.

It'll look good in the end.

I'm just a little btch right now because I'm not getting my way....

Revogen · Jun 4, 2017

Davedacarpainter said:
Ok, I'm still sidetracked on the side jobs. I'm still taking care of his other "little" jobs. I'm shooting the Acadia tailgate and rear bumper tonight. Tomorrow I have to shoot another BMW X5 front end. They're both three stage white.

On the positive side, he has this in the fridge and asked me if I like beer
Maybe......

Finished off one (or maybe more) of those myself this weekend, not bad at all...

Davedacarpainter · Jun 4, 2017

Here's a slightly funny story about yesterday.

I may have have had one or two beers while working on these vehicles and I was relieving myself of built up internal pressures in a small batch of trees next to his shop. I heard voices just on the other side of the trees after said relieving had begun. Too late, I finished my business and went back to work.

Turns out there was a couple maybe ten yards away taking their wedding pictures! Not the kind of photo bombing they may want.

General karthief · Jun 4, 2017

Ask for copies

droopie85gt · Jun 4, 2017

What's up with the damn turkeys??? everywhere...even next to the beer. Man oh man. I bought a 64 Skylark convertible once. Took the engine and tranny out, replaced the floors, looked at how much sheet metal it had and said I need to like smaller cars! Sold it. I would give up my Stang in HEARTBEAT for a 64 or 65 Riviera. I think those are the coolest cars of the 60's and the baddest assed interiors ever. Unfortunately every time I see one close I ask my wallet and he says NO.

I am really amazed by your attention to detail...and skill....and patience. All of your work I have seen has been better than I could ever hope to have or do in a million years!!!!

Davedacarpainter · Jun 5, 2017

droopie85gt said:
What's up with the damn turkeys??? everywhere...even next to the beer. Man oh man. I bought a 64 Skylark convertible once. Took the engine and tranny out, replaced the floors, looked at how much sheet metal it had and said I need to like smaller cars! Sold it. I would give up my Stang in HEARTBEAT for a 64 or 65 Riviera. I think those are the coolest cars of the 60's and the baddest assed interiors ever. Unfortunately every time I see one close I ask my wallet and he says NO.

I am really amazed by your attention to detail...and skill....and patience. All of your work I have seen has been better than I could ever hope to have or do in a million years!!!!

Thanks Drew.

TG likes to hunt turkeys and it's turkey season. He likes to mount various parts of the birds to display.

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