1990 Gt Auto, Rich At Idle?, Stumbles With Throttle?

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Don't know where to move next with diagnosis? Car runs rich at idle, smoke fumes are dark for at least 20 to 30 seconds. Sometimes car will stall after first crank. Then will start after second crank but runs ruff for first 20 to 30 seconds. Wondering if rich at first start is just the nature of foxes and the overlap of the Ecam with stock computer? Car has also recently picked up a stumble when applying the throttle. Very frustrating and annoying. Have cleaned many of the usual suspects. MAF, EGR, throttle body, IAC, etc. Car has long block from a 94 GT that had an Ecam added. Car also has the smog pump delete with the vacuum hoses plugged off. Have an obd1 code reader. Key on returns no codes. Running returns codes 94 and 44. This I believe is do to the smog pump being gone. Not sure if these codes could contribute to bad running conditions? Cylinder balance has also returned a 90 code all good. Checked voltage on tps at idle and it was 1.07. Adjusted it to 0.90 by drilling out the screw holes a little. Initially appeared to help with test drive, but then stumble condition returned. If tps has worn spots at different throttle positions it is probably tuff to test right and it is not throwing a code? Tested MAF voltage across c and d. It is reading .97 at idle. Not sure if this is acceptable? Have recently been trying to make sure there are no vacuum leaks as well. Also, just noticed during fueling that the fueling pump kept kicking off. Not sure if this is related? When I bought the car years ago the tank vent was crimped off and created a suction on the gas cap. I dropped the tank a little years ago and added a new length of rubber hose to correct the problem. This condition is not present. Not sure where to go from here? Suggestions?
 
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If the TPS had an issue, you'd get a code for it. There really is no adjustment to make. As long as the voltage is between 0.6V and 1.4V you are good to go. Adjusting to 0.9v is a myth that needs to go away. The adjustment only lasts until you shut the engine off.

What's your fuel pressure? can you get a guage on the line?
 
Fuel pressure was at 36lbs with vacuum attached. Took about an hour for pressure to start dropping after key off. I was checking to see if I might have an injector leaking off. Also pulled the plugs and they really didn't look horrible. I regapped them to .40 and put them back in. They are motorcraft plugs. I replaced the fuel pressure regulator last year with a non-adjustable replacement.

BTW, this car has a no cats h pipe installed.
 
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You didn't include the model year or mods to you car. That is a handicap when trying to troubleshoot problems. Please correct this before proceeding.

Since the codes you reported are due to missing smog equipment, you get to go chasing ghosts. You may have multiple bad sensors that are marginal but not out of range enough to set a code. The combination of these out of range sensors may be what is causing your problems.

We will start with the simple, easy to test things first. Do the test and measurements, don't pick and choose or skip around. You may miss the very thing you need to fix the problem. I suggest you read through the list several times and then print it out for reference while you are doing the testing.

The pug gaps should be set .053 - .055 unless you are running pressurized induction or NO2 power adder.
What sort of vacuum reading are you getting at idle? Small vacuum leaks may not show much change using a vacuum gauge. The range of "good readings" varies so much from engine to engine that it may be difficult to detect small leaks. The engine in my first Mustang pulled about 16.5" of vacuum at 650-725 RPM, which I consider rather low. It was a mass market remanufactured rebuild, so no telling what kind of camshaft it had. Average readings seem to run 16"-18" inches at idle and 18"-21" at 1000 RPM. The only sure comparison is a reading taken when your car was performing at its best through all the RPM ranges and what it is doing now. Use one of the spare ports on the vacuum tree that is mounted on the firewall near the windshield wiper motor.


TPS
The TPS is a variable resistor, must like the volume control knob on a cheap radio. We have all heard them crackle and pop when the volume is adjusted. The TPS sensor has the same problem: wear on the resistor element makes places that create electrical noise. This electrical noise confuses the computer, because it expects to see a smooth increase or decrease as the throttle is opened or closed.

TPS testing: most of the time a failed TPS will set code 23 or 63, but not always. Use either an analog meter or a DVM with an analog bar graph and connect the leads as instructed above. Turn the ignition switch to the Run position, but do not start the engine. Note the voltage with the throttle closed. Slowly open the throttle and watch the voltage increase smoothly, slowly close the throttle and watch the voltage decrease smoothly. If the voltage jumps around and isn’t smooth, the TPS has some worn places in the resistor element. When the throttle is closed, make sure that the voltage is the same as what it was when you started. If it varies more than 10%, the TPS is suspect of being worn in the idle range of its travel.

Adjusting the TPS fails to resolve the problem:
Check the black/white wire resistance. Connect one ohmmeter lead to the black/white wire on the TPS and one lead to the negative post on the battery. You should see less than 1.5 ohm, more than that indicates a problem. Always take resistance measurements with the circuit powered off.

Clean the 10 pin salt & pepper shaker connectors.
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O2 Sensors
The following is a Quote from Charles O. Probst, Ford fuel Injection & Electronic Engine control:
"When the mixture is lean, the exhaust gas has oxygen, about the same amount as the ambient air. So the sensor will generate less than 400 Millivolts. Remember lean = less voltage.

When the mixture is rich, there's less oxygen in the exhaust than in the ambient air , so voltage is generated between the two sides of the tip. The voltage is greater than 600 millivolts. Remember rich = more voltage.

Here's a tip: the newer the sensor, the more the voltage changes, swinging from as low as 0.1 volt to as much as 0.9 volt. As an oxygen sensor ages, the voltage changes get smaller and slower - the voltage change lags behind the change in exhaust gas oxygen.

Because the oxygen sensor generates its own voltage, never apply voltage and never measure resistance of the sensor circuit. To measure voltage signals, use an analog voltmeter with a high input impedance, at least 10 megohms. Remember, a digital voltmeter will average a changing voltage." End Quote

Testing the O2 sensors 87-93 5.0 Mustangs
Measuring the O2 sensor voltage at the computer will give you a good idea of how well they are working. You'll have to pull the passenger side kick panel off to gain access to the computer connector. Remove the plastic wiring cover to get to the back side of the wiring. Use a safety pin or paper clip to probe the connections from the rear.

Disconnect the O2 sensor from the harness and use the body side O2 sensor harness as the starting point for testing. Do not measure the resistance of the O2 sensor , you may damage it. Resistance measurements for the O2 sensor harness are made with one meter lead on the O2 sensor harness and the other meter lead on the computer wire or pin for the O2 sensor.

Backside view of the computer wiring connector:
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87-90 5.0 Mustangs:
Computer pin 43 Dark blue/Lt green – LH O2 sensor
Computer pin 29 Dark Green/Pink – RH O2 sensor
The computer pins are 29 (L\RH O2 with a dark green/pink wire) and 43 (LH O2 with a dark blue/pink wire). Use the ground next to the computer to ground the voltmeter. The O2 sensor voltage should switch between .2-.9 volt at idle.

91-93 5.0 Mustangs:
Computer pin 43 Red/Black – LH O2 sensor
Computer pin 29 Gray/Lt blue – RH O2 sensor
The computer pins are 29 (LH O2 with a Gray/Lt blue wire) and 43 (RH O2 with a Red/Black wire). Use the ground next to the computer to ground the voltmeter. The O2 sensor voltage should switch between .2-.9 volt at idle.


Testing the O2 sensors 94-95 5.0 Mustangs
Measuring the O2 sensor voltage at the computer will give you a good idea of how well they are working. You'll have to pull the passenger side kick panel off to gain access to the computer connector. Remove the plastic wiring cover to get to the back side of the wiring. Use a safety pin or paper clip to probe the connections from the rear. The computer pins are 29 (LH O2 with a red/black wire) and 27 (RH O2 with a gray/lt blue wire). Use pin 32 (gray/red wire) to ground the voltmeter. The O2 sensor voltage should switch between .2-.9 volt at idle.


Note that all resistance tests must be done with power off. Measuring resistance with a circuit powered on will give false readings and possibly damage the meter. Do not attempt to measure the resistance of the O2 sensors, it may damage them.

Testing the O2 sensor wiring harness
Most of the common multimeters have a resistance scale. Be sure the O2 sensors are disconnected and measure the resistance from the O2 sensor body harness to the pins on the computer. Using the Low Ohms range (usually 200 Ohms) you should see less than 1.5 Ohms.

87-90 5.0 Mustangs:
Computer pin 43 Dark blue/Lt green – LH O2 sensor
Computer pin 29 Dark Green/Pink – RH O2 sensor
Disconnect the connector from the O2 sensor and measure the resistance:
From the Dark blue/Lt green wire in the LH O2 sensor harness and the Dark blue/Lt green wire on the computer pin 43
From the Dark Green/Pink wire on the RH Os sensor harness and the Dark Green/Pink wire on the computer pin 29

91-93 5.0 Mustangs:
Computer pin 43 Red/Black – LH O2 sensor
Computer pin 29 Gray/Lt blue – RH O2 sensor
Disconnect the connector from the O2 sensor and measure the resistance:
From the Red/Black wire in the LH O2 sensor harness and the Red/Black wire on the computer pin 43
From the Dark Green/Pink Gray/Lt blue wire on the RH Os sensor harness and the Gray/Lt blue wire on the computer pin 29

94-95 5.0 Mustangs:
Computer pin 29 Red/Black – LH O2 sensor
Computer pin 27 Gray/Lt blue – RH O2 sensor
From the Red/Black wire in the LH O2 sensor harness and the Red/Black wire on the computer pin 29


MAF
There are three parts in a MAF: the heater, the sensor element and the amplifier. The heater heats the MAF sensor element causing the resistance to increase. The amplifier buffers the MAF output signal and has a resistor that is laser trimmed to provide an output range compatible with the computer's load tables. Changes in RPM causes the airflow to increase or decrease, changing the voltage output.. The increase of air across the MAF sensor element causes it to cool, allowing more voltage to pass and telling the computer to increase the fuel flow. A decrease in airflow causes the MAF sensor element to get warmer, decreasing the voltage and reducing the fuel flow.

The MAF element is secured by 2 screws & has 1 wiring connector. To clean the element, remove it from the MAF housing and spray it down with electronic parts cleaner or non-inflammable brake parts cleaner (same stuff in a bigger can and cheaper too).

89-90 Model cars: Measure the MAF output at pins C & D on the MAF connector (dark blue/orange and tan/light blue) or at pins 50 & 9 on the computer. Be sure to measure the sensor output by measuring across the pins and not between the pins and ground.

91-95 Model cars: Measure the MAF output at pins C & D on the MAF connector light blue/red and tan/light blue) or at pins 50 & 9 on the computer. Be sure to measure the sensor output by measuring across the pins and not between the pins and ground.


At idle = approximately .6 volt
20 MPH = approximately 1.10 volt
40 MPH = approximately 1.70 volt
60 MPH = approximately 2.10 volt

Check the resistance of the MAF signal wiring. Pin D on the MAF and pin 50 on the computer (dark blue/orange wire) should be less than 2 ohms. Pin C on the MAF and pin 9 on the computer (tan/light blue wire) should be less than 2 ohms.

There should be a minimum of 10K ohms between either pin C or D on the MAF wiring connector and pins A or B. Make your measurement with the MAF disconnected from the wiring harness.

Actually MAF pins C & D float with reference to ground. The signal output of the MAF is a differential amplifier setup. Pins C & D both carry the output signal, but one pin's output is inverted from the other. The difference in signal between C & D is what the computer's input circuit is looking for. The difference in the two outputs helps cancel out electrical noise generated by the ignition system and other components. Since the noise will be of the same polarity, wave shape and magnitude, the differential input of the computer electronically subtracts it from the signal. Then it passes the signal on to an Analog to Digital converter section inside the computer's CPU chip.

ECT & ACT
The computer Engine Coolant Temperature sensor has absolutely nothing to do with the temperature gauge. They are different animals. The ECT sensor is normally located it the passenger side front of the engine in the water feed tubes for the heater. It has two wires that connect by a weathertight plastic connector. The ACT for Mustangs built before 95 is in the #5 intake runner. It measures the air temperature in the intake to help computer the proper air/fuel ratio.


The water temperature sender for the temp gauge is located in the driver's side lower intake manifold. It has a single wire that connects by a push on connector on the temp sender.

Note that that if the outside air temp is below 50 degrees F that the test for the ACT and ECT can be in error. Warm the engine up to operating temperature and retest.

The ACT & ECT have the same thermistor, so the table values are the same

ACT & ECT test data:

Use Pin 46 on the computer for ground for both ECT & ACT to get most accurate readings.

Pin 7 on the computer - ECT signal in. At 176 degrees F it should be .80 volts

Pin 25 on the computer - ACT signal in. At 50 degrees F it should be 3.5 volts. It is a good number if the ACT is mounted in the inlet airbox. If it is mounted in the lower intake manifold, the voltage readings will be lower because of the heat transfer.

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Voltages may be measured across the ECT/ACT by probing the connector from the rear. A pair of safety pins may be helpful in doing this. Use care in doing it so that you don't damage the wiring or connector.

Here's the table :

50 degrees F = 3.52 v
68 degrees F = 3.02 v
86 degrees F = 2.62 v
104 degrees F = 2.16 v
122 degrees F = 1.72 v
140 degrees F = 1.35 v
158 degrees F = 1.04 v
176 degrees F = .80 v
194 degrees F = .61
212 degrees F = .47 v
230 degrees F = .36 v
248 degrees F = .28 v

Ohms measures at the computer with the computer disconnected, or at the sensor with the sensor disconnected.

50 degrees F = 58.75 K ohms
68 degrees F = 37.30 K ohms
86 degrees F = 27.27 K ohms
104 degrees F = 16.15 K ohms
122 degrees F = 10.97 K ohms
140 degrees F = 7.60 K ohms
158 degrees F = 5.37 K ohms
176 degrees F = 3.84 K ohms
194 degrees F = 2.80 K ohms
212 degrees F = 2.07 K ohms
230 degrees F = 1.55 K ohms
248 degrees F = 1.18 k ohms

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds

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MAP/Baro sensor
On a Speed Density car, the MAP/BARO sensor is connected to the intake manifold and acts to sense the manifold pressure. Lower vacuum inside the intake manifold when combined with more throttle opening measured by the TPS means more airflow through the engine. As airflow increases, fuel flow through the injectors needs to increase to keep the air/fuel ratio where it needs to be. When manifold vacuum increases, the engine is either decelerating or idling, and it needs to reduce the fuel flow through the injectors.

On a Mass Air car, the MAP/BARO sensor vents to open air and actually senses the barometric pressure due to changes in weather and altitude. Its purpose is to set a baseline for the computer to know the barometric pressure. As barometric pressure decreases, it leans out the fuel flow to compensate for less oxygen in the air. When the barometric pressure rises, it increases to add fuel since there is more oxygen in the air. The fuel requirements decrease as altitude increases, since the atmospheric pressure decreases.

Disconnecting the MAP or BARO sensor will set code 22.

Misconnecting the BARO sensor to vacuum on a Mass Air car will cause the computer to lean out the fuel mixture.

Code 22 or 126 MAP (vacuum) or BARO signal out of range. The MAP or BARO sensor is pretty much the same sensor for both Mass Air & Speed Density cars. The main difference is where it is connected. Mass Air cars vent it to the atmosphere, while Speed Density cars connect it to the intake manifold vacuum. Its purpose is to help set a baseline for the air/fuel mixture by sensing changes in barometric pressure. The MAP or BAP sensor puts out a 5 volt square wave that changes frequency with variations in atmospheric pressure. The base is 154 HZ at 29.92" of mercury - dry sunny day at sea level, about 68-72 degrees. You need an oscilloscope or frequency meter to measure it. There a very few DVM’s with a price tag under $40 that will measure frequency, but there are some out there.

Map sensor wiring:
black/white - ground
orange/white or +5 volts power
white/red signal out.

Measure the +5 volt supply using the orange/white and black/white wires
Measure the signal using the black/white and white/red wires.

The MAP/BARO sensor is mounted on the firewall behind the upper manifold on 86-93 Mustangs.

Baro or MAP test using a real frequency meter - run the test key on, engine off. The noise from the ignition system will likely upset the frequency meter. I used a 10 x oscilloscope probe connected from the frequency meter to the MAP/BAP to reduce the jitter in the meter's readout. And oscilloscope is very useful if you have access to one or know of someone who does. With an oscilloscope, you can see the waveform and amplitude.

If it is defective, your air/fuel ratio will be off and the car’s performance & emissions will suffer

Some basic checks you can make to be sure that the sensor is getting power & ground:
Note that all resistance tests must be done with power off. Measuring resistance with a circuit powered on will give false readings and possibly damage the meter.
Check the resistance between the black/white wire on the MAP/BARO sensor and then the black/white wire on the EGR and the same wire on the TPS. It should be less than 1 ohm. Next check the resistance between the black/white wire and the negative battery cable. It should be less than 1.5 ohm.

The following power on check requires you to turn the ignition switch to the Run position.
Use a DVM to check for 5 volts on the orange/white wire. If it is missing, look for +5 volts at the orange/white wire on the TPS or EGR sensors. Use the black/white wire for the ground for the DVM.

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Diagrams courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds

Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 88-91 Mass Air Mustangs
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Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 91-93 Mass Air Mustangs
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See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-95 wiring http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/ Everyone should bookmark this site.
 
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Wow that is a lot of ghost chasing indeed! And a character and patience builder.

Car in question is a 1990 Mustang GT with an AOD, mostly stock. Former owner put in
94 GT long block with Ecam, intake from the 90 GT. No cats, just h pipe. He also took off most of the smog equipment. I have owned the car 5 years. When I first purchased it had many codes thrown. Replaced o2 sensors then. Located some used solenoids for evap system and put that all back on. It eliminated a suction condition on the gas tank. With various work it eliminated all codes except the 94 and 44, because I did not put the smog pump back. It has numerous other replacements parts over the years as well. But have not replaced tps or MAF, injectors? Of course I don't want to just start replacing aged but ok sensors in this process. I am afraid that is what my local garages would do. Just start replacing parts and see what happens. That can get expensive and unrewarding. Also we changed the rear end gears to 3.73 for fun. I did think of getting a harbor freight vacuum gauge to see what kind of vacuum its pulling at the tree? It could still have a small leak somewhere?

What do you think of the MAF at 0.97 volts at idle, say 850rpm?

Thanks
 
Almost forgot. I also own a 95 GT. Can I swap the MAF into the 90 to see if it runs better? Or the tps?
I highly recommend that you do the diagnostic work BEFORE swapping any parts.


The TPS is a one for on swap. None of the TPs sensors are adjustable, that is Bozo internet Myth. The computer reads the TPS on startup and takes whatever voltage it sees and uses that as the base starting point. As long as the voltage isn't over 1.4 volts, whatever the TPS reads on startup is considered zero volts.

The 95 MAF is an upgrade when used on a 89-93 Mustang - it is 70 MM compared to the stock 55 MM on 89-93 Mustangs.
 
From the 95 I tried just the MAF sensor. Really did not make a difference. Swapped it back.

Tps testing:
Green to black wire, ignition key on, holding at 0.85 volts
Pulling throttle open slowly under the hood it appears to smoothly increase. Goes up to about 4.2 and then returns to 0.85
Now resistance from black wire to negative terminal on battery is around 3.0
Using a cheap dvm from HF.
 
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From the 95 I tried just the MAF sensor. Really did not make a difference. Swapped it back.

Tps testing:
Green to black wire, ignition key on, holding at 0.85 volts
Pulling throttle open slowly under the hood it appears to smoothly increase. Goes up to about 4.2 and then returns to 0.85
Now resistance from black wire to negative terminal on battery is around 3.0
Using a cheap dvm from HF.
3 Ohms is too much resistance, It should be in the 1 -1.5 Ohms range.
Put the meter on low ohms and short the probe tips together. you should see less than 1 ohm.

Start checking the TPS ground wiring.
From the TPS sensor to the 10 pin connector should be less that 1 ohm.
From the 10 pin connector to the black/white wire on the Baro sensor should be less than 1 ohm.
From the black/white wire on the Baro sensor to the battery negative cable clamp should be less than 1 Ohm.
 
Some revised numbers on ground wiring. I think meter needed new batteries and my testing procedures got better. Needed to wait for meter to settle as well.
Meter shorted out is around 1.0
Going from tps to negative battery cable is coming in at 1.3
Tps to 10 pin is 1.2
10 pin to baro is 1.2
Baro to negative battery cable is 1.1
Tps to battery cable is 1.2 with baro unplugged.

These seem better
 
Some revised numbers on ground wiring. I think meter needed new batteries and my testing procedures got better. Needed to wait for meter to settle as well.
Meter shorted out is around 1.0
Going from tps to negative battery cable is coming in at 1.3
Tps to 10 pin is 1.2
10 pin to baro is 1.2
Baro to negative battery cable is 1.1
Tps to battery cable is 1.2 with baro unplugged.

These seem better
That looks much better even with your $5.99 red Harbor Freight DVM. I have one too, it is meant to ride around in my wife's van for roadside emergencies...
 
Well, I may have found the culprit for the stumbling and missing under throttle. Turns out I had a loose ignition ground wire. Didn't have much time in a test drive but seemed to drive much better. I still have a problem with too rich at startup. Black smoke for 20 to 30 seconds. Fuel pressure is a little over 40psi then settles to around 36 with vacuum during this time. When settled fuel pressure is 42 with no vacuum. Would an adjustable fuel pressure regulator help with this? I hate to think getting back into that fuel rail again. Why couldn't they have put the screws on the top?

Once I figure this part out then I will move to a transmission leak. Had a garage put a new dipstick seal on a a new pan gasket. It didn't leak for over a week and now it seems the flood gates opened. Starting to wonder if they overfilled and pressure buildup has caused it to leak again or maybe I have other problems? Tranny seems to perform ok? I have soaked two pieces of cardboard and it seems fluid is still in the zone on the dipstick.
 
When I measure tranny fluid cold it is higher on the dipstick then when it's at operating temperature. I thought the fluid expanded with heat. Or is the torque converter fluid playing tricks on me?
 
When I measure tranny fluid cold it is higher on the dipstick then when it's at operating temperature. I thought the fluid expanded with heat. Or is the torque converter fluid playing tricks on me?

You're supposed to check the trans fluid while the car is running, in park or neutral. As long as it read good there, I wouldn't worry about the tricky converter ;)