Nice to have more narrow minded members here.Ew. Let's keep Ford with Ford and Chevy with Chevy. Granted, it is a damn good transmission, I just think it's wrong to switch stuff around like that.
It's not that I'm narrow minded, it's that I don't like swapping things where they should not go. I like Chevy, and I give respect where it's due (that's obvious, I DID say the TH400 "is a damn good transmission") but I don't think a GM transmission belongs in a Ford. And if I were to own a GM vehicle, I certainly wouldn't want to swap Ford parts into it. It's just wrong in my eyes. You can go ahead and do all that you want with your vehicles, but don't call me narrow minded for wanting to keep MY vehicles all Ford.Nice to have more narrow minded members here.
Now THAT'S where things get tricky. In my eyes it wouldn't be since just the case is the only original GM piece, but I'm not running a 3000 HP monster that needs a built 400! For what little HP I run and the fact that I'm not a drag racer, factory Ford hard parts suit me just wellIs it still a GM trans after you swap all the guts with aftermarket parts?
For the life of me, I cannot understand why you would build a turbo motor without forking out the extra money for a turbo cam. You might spend, what, another $300 for it? After spending all that money for a system, $300 is a wise investment. I quoted you because I like your statement about efficiency. Sure you can do all that with a stock cam, as MY 85 GT has proven, but I can only liken that to having the body of an Olympic sprinter and the brains of a chimpanzee.
I would get a custom cam!My buddies H/C/I ed curtis cammed s/c car runs with my 351w turbo all day! NO ONE else stands a chance with me. As for the trans? I would go with a gforce t-5 or tremac or c4! My C4 will hold 750 easy. DONT EVER cross bread ANY GM crap into a mustang! GM is the ****ing pond scum biggest POS on earth!
Up your boost....you will stay with him...lol... So tell me its worth spending say 3-4 hundreds on a cam...timing chain,gasket,doing the Job...ON A STOCK 302 BLOCK??? when you can get 500 to the rear wheels on a stock cam and split the F*** out of the stock block......why?.....like i said if it was a 351 or a better block sh** yeah get a custom cam but not on a stock 302 ...This is just my opinion....I have an awesome set of heads good intake,14 psi meth injection and a good tune...i make plenty to split mine....
I would get a custom cam!My buddies H/C/I ed curtis cammed s/c car runs with my 351w turbo all day! NO ONE else stands a chance with me. As for the trans? I would go with a gforce t-5 or tremac or c4! My C4 will hold 750 easy. DONT EVER cross bread ANY GM crap into a mustang! GM is the ****ing pond scum biggest POS on earth!
BECAUSE he is on a stock block....no need to spend extra money when he is going to make the same HP to split that block into a million pieces with a turbo .....If it was a dart block or a 351 etc,,...yes i agree then a cam is a good choice...im at and over what my block can take with a stock cam....with a turbo just up the boost and the HP is there....
Here's a question for you guys...
What causes the stock 302 to split? is it to much cylinder pressure?
i have a theory of what causes the blower cars to split at around 500hp. but what causes the turbo and nitrous cars?
My theory with a blower car is that the stress on the crank causes the mains to shift around which results in the lifter valley split... But a turbo car won't see this stress so they should be able to go well past 500 if the theory is correct. But is it? Even then I'd thing a well spec'd turbo cam would be able to make more power with less cylinder pressure and help keep the block in a single piece. Nitrous cars on the other hand will see crank stress but nothing like a blower dragging on it AND some one banging gears with it... Maybe Rick can tell me if I'm crazy or not. Well at least in this discussionI'd like to know the answer as well. Everyone is quick to point out that going past 500 hp is dangerous and a death wish, but I doubt anyone actually knows why. I don't.
I don't agree with adding boost to overcome a lack of efficiency. There's no difference between turning up boost and Paul Walker saying "i almost had you" after spraying the **** out of his car with 10 stages of nitrous. We all saw the outcome there.
And yeah, I just used Fast and Furious as a reference.
And stock block means little. There are plenty of people running more power with no problem and less power that have grenaded. This has been beat into the ground since the creation of forums.
My theory with a blower car is that the stress on the crank causes the mains to shift around which results in the lifter valley split... But a turbo car won't see this stress so they should be able to go well past 500 if the theory is correct. But is it? Even then I'd thing a well spec'd turbo cam would be able to make more power with less cylinder pressure and help keep the block in a single piece. Nitrous cars on the other hand will see crank stress but nothing like a blower dragging on it AND some one banging gears with it... Maybe Rick can tell me if I'm crazy or not. Well at least in this discussion
That seems to be very plausible. As for turbo cars and nitrous cars (and I'll admit this is a guess, I have no experience with either) that it may have to do with a combination of stress from cylinder pressure and harmonics working together. Seems that engine deaths happen at a higher RPM. As soon as I kill this 427 with nitrous, I might be able to give better insight.
Side note - Ill probably be PMing you with nitrous questions in the next couple of weeks. This motor fell into my lap and I have never paid nitrous any attention. I'd rather not learn by mistakes and Bob's car seems to run well with it.
Very familiar with TTF and Denmah is my unofficial hero. But even he is running a ZR-1 cam.
I like your car, glad it makes what it does, and given the chance to have another fox for a DD, I would more than likely have an On3 setup on a stock motor. All I am saying is that you can make AS MUCH or MORE power with less boost and less stress with a more efficent setup.
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