Found this; seems like it has the majority of what I would need. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2550110727...d=link&campid=5335821607&toolid=20001&mkevt=1I have a 2001 V6 Manual that has sentimental value, is in excellent shape but is reaching the 100K mile mark. I want to minimize the pain of a swap to (preferably) a 4.6L 4V. From what I've read, sticking to the same MY is the least pain, mainly electrically. I would love to put an 03/04 Terminator engine with a T56, but I've read that's a different animal. What are your thoughts on putting a 2001 4V? Or (less preferably) a 2001 4.6L 2V?
I’m sure your Coyote swap is way more work than what I was thinking. At least the 4.6 I’m looking at was an option for the year I have. I know I would have to do things like switch to hydroboost brakes, due to clearance. The kit I referenced on eBay would seem to make it easier (ECU, engine harness, cluster, accessories w/brackets). But you’re right: there are always things you didn’t anticipate. That’s why I’m reaching out to this groups collective knowledge; I’m sure there are some lessons learned from others who came before me.PCM, Can-Bus, mechanicals??? That's the issue you have. Once you change the format, you have a LOT to deal with. I'm currently dealing with putting a Coyote in my '02, and in CA, it's a huge challenge, but doable. So, if you don't have any emission regulations and can do it, have time and $$$, do it, but be prepared to encounter a lot of things you're not thinking about right now. Easy way out is to refresh the V6, and probably less painful. jmo
No doubt about it: a donor car would make it easier. It’s been my experience with other projects that the first 90% might not be too bad, but the last 10% can sometimes eat your lunch. I bought a wiring diagram book for the 2001 model, so I could study the differences between the V6, 2V, and 4V, because I heard the electrical part of the swap can be a chunk of that 10%. I’m torn between the pride of saying “Yeah, I put that engine in it” vs. the fun of just going out and buying a Cobra after selling the V6. If others have done a similar swap, and have lessons learned that would minimize the surprises of that last 10%, I would probably lean towards the pride of saying I swapped it. Anyone can just write a check.A parts car would make this swap easier. There's going to be a lot of misc items you won't get in that swap kit that you will need to seek out.
For example, with the hydroboost you'll need the pedal assembly as well. You'll need the hoses and lines. If you have to chase all this down separately it will be a PITA, not to mention likely more expensive for you. That ebay listing mentions that the hardware alone is likely $1K. They aren't joking. All those little odds and ends add up if you need to seek them out individually every time you move onto a different area of the project.
Easiest parts car to use would be a 2001 Cobra, but if you found a 99 cobra or even a 03/04 Cobra you can certainly use those. ANything in the 99-04 span is wired very similarly so it will work. A mach 1 could even be used.
PATS can be done by a dealer with marrying of both PCM and dash. Your only other option is to by-pass it but it may not be legal to do where you are.And of course PATS is a pain when swapping computers and clusters like I am doing.
Just so you know;;; There is a free open source program out there called Forcsan. I used it with a usb dongle on my PC (i got on Amzn) and accessed the PATS and program my keys. Car started right up. I is very limited with these older cars but is a very powerful program for newer cars and trucks. The programmers helped me when the first dongle did not work. There is tons of info out there about how to download it and set it up. Then get a reputable dongle. Ill still need to program the vin in the ecm to match my chassis before I go to smog check, as Forscan cannot do that on these cars (it can some cars).PATS can be done by a dealer with marrying of both PCM and dash. Your only other option is to by-pass it but it may not be legal to do where you are.
I have a 2001 V6 Manual that has sentimental value, is in excellent shape but is reaching the 100K mile mark. I want to minimize the pain of a swap to (preferably) a 4.6L 4V. From what I've read, sticking to the same MY is the least pain, mainly electrically. I would love to put an 03/04 Terminator engine with a T56, but I've read that's a different animal. What are your thoughts on putting a 2001 4V? Or (less preferably) a 2001 4.6L 2V?
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