2002 s281 SUPERCHARGER on 2002 gt?

Hey I have a few questions about supercharging my mustang GT. I read alot about putting a eaton M112 on my 2002 mustang GT and everyone has said just wait and get a kenne bell. But I have found a deal on a superchager from a 2002 s281 and the guy says it will bolt up to a 99-04 mustang gt 2V. He is selling it for $1000 OBO. Now im not sure on the other parts but it comes with the lower intake, throttle body, 39LB injectors, fuel rails and intercooler. I have a inline pump for 1000+ hp and I know I would need a mass air and a tune......but is that all I need? and would this really mount up to a 2002 GT
2v? Thanks guys!
 
you need a completre parts list from teh guy that is selling it.

and you dont have a 1000 HP inline pump in your car. there is no such thing as a pump that will support that unless you are talking about an aeromotive eliminator pump (or similar) and i highly doubt you have that with a NA car. look into a focus pump to get the fuel supply right.

a saleen charger will work fine (saleen is just a GT with a body kit) they arent very good and you wont break 375 rwhp with it most likely, but it will be a nice little boost in power for cheap
 
Before you go spending all this cash on a supercharger that could cause you bearing failure in future, you might wanna put that grand into building your engine to accept all those horses.
I don't know if your new to the Mustang game but, as well as the engine accepts F.I., it does increase wear and tear two fold on stock components.
 
that charger will NEVER make enough power to pop a stock bottom end with a good tune.

best bet is to sell whatever inline pump your have (inlines dont work on a returnless system) and buy a focus pump. they are around $100 new and will support 420 rwhp. your car will not ever make that power with a saleen blower so it will be more than enough.

and yes, a Saleen is the SAME AS A GT! they just add a body kit and some suspension and thats it.

if you post pics of the blower and intake manifold we can get a better idea to make sure it will work.

and you need to take the underdrive pulleys off.
 
OP, check to see if the supercharger runs off the same pullies as all the other accessories or if it has a separate (dedicated) belt and pulley system. If it has a separate belt then you will need the bracket for it. This bracket will probably relocate your altenator so be sure to check for that also. And get the belt as well. Nothing sucks more than going back and forth to the auto store to get a perfect fitting belt. Check to see if your pump is an INTANK pump or an INLINE pump. An INLINE pump (like the Vortech T-Rex) will not work on a returnless fuel system like the 99 up GT's have. An INTANK pump will not support 1000 hp by itself unless it is the Aeromotive pump. Even so, your stock fuel lines and the bottom end will not support that kind of power. A 255 lph pump should suffice for that set up. Also, you will definitely need a MAF sensor calibrated for the 39 lb injectors. I would go with a PMAS 95mm unit. You're gonna spend around $300 so just make sure he is including a MAF in the deal. Check to see if he has all the bolts. It may be missing a few but a hardware store will get you straight. You're gonna need a flash tuner so see if he has one for the set. Check to see if he has all these items because if he doesn't, then the cost of the system can go up dramatically by the time all is said and done.
 
BTW, if he has all the items I listed as well as everything you mentioned, then you got an absolute steal for $1000. I forgot to mention that you will have to get the blower lubricated so try to find out how to do that because I have no idea how to, lol...!! And make sure the blower spins freely, has no shaft play, and no cracks in the snout...
 
The lightning meter will definitely do the job and they are fairly priced. I personally would rather shell out the extra money for the PMAS meter so that is the reason I didn't think to recommend the Lightning meter. It all comes down to preference. Hopefully there is a meter included and he won't have to purchase one at all.
 
OP, I checked and it looks like the Saleen supercharger shares the same belt with the other accessories. It relocates the altenator probably with the lower intake but at least there is no separate bracket and pulley system to worry about. So all you need to do is check to see if the tuner, MAF sensor, and belt are all included. And you need to get rid of the underdrive pulleys and get your fuel pump straight. Again, you got a great deal if everything is included...!!
 
Tip of warning. I used to have one of these as well and I never broke 350rwhp so I was really dissapointed. I also got the unit for $1500 a year or so ago and it was a nice little unit, however it did ad a ton of weight to my front end too. I originally had a goal of 400rwhp and I knew that unit couldn't do it but bought it anyways. I actually sold it 9 months later when I realized it was a waste since I was unsatisfied with the hp. I ended up buying a Vortech and I broke the 490rwhp mark (with a built engine too).

If you goals to reach 400+hp I would not buy that unit at all. Its not worth the time or labor to install and then remove, then install a new supercharger. Its time consuming annoying and most the time you loose something. If you wait you can also save that money on a custom tune.

To be totally honest. In the beginning I only got 320rwhp with my saleen supercharger, then I modded a whole lot, pulley, intakes and upgraded intercooler and so on and barley got 350. To be honest, if you spend that same amount of money on Cams, and Heads (or port yours) you can spend the same amount if not a little more for a power increase that's better. Its not only safer on your internals, but its sounds mean as well. Then if you ad a power adder on top you'll definitely hit your 400 mark. Cams and heads should net you to 320+ depending on other mods in your car.

Either way good luck. I'd say do the cam/heads mod now though. Save your self the trouble. If you would be happy with 320hp, I'd suggest selling your car and buying a 199/2001 cobra, at least then you get 4 valves as well :)
 
Ok I did forget about the returnless fuel system so I would prob go with one of the intake pumps. Does anyone know of a good set of mild cams for that set up? also can you pulley the saleen supercharger? I would be happy with 320 for now til I had time to tear down the engine and build my 5.0 stroker. I was also thinking of the lightning mass air for the job, I have worked with one of them on my turbo'd 95 and worked good. The 4v terminator would be bad ass but the 02 has a lot of sentimental value from my father. Here is a picture of the set up. supercharger.webp
 
It definitely looks nice. I'd say throw the blower on the way it is and see what you get. A smaller pulley will add a lot more heat. Besides, if you run it as it is then you can check to see how much boost and power you're getting. You can also keep an eye on the air/fuel ratio and make adjustments. You can always pulley it down, add cams, increase timing, etc when you're certain that everything is running right. You can even upgrade to a Kenne Bell blower later. I think they have a unit that will bolt right to the Saleen intake.
 
Ok I did forget about the returnless fuel system so I would prob go with one of the intake pumps. Does anyone know of a good set of mild cams for that set up? also can you pulley the saleen supercharger? I would be happy with 320 for now til I had time to tear down the engine and build my 5.0 stroker. I was also thinking of the lightning mass air for the job, I have worked with one of them on my turbo'd 95 and worked good. The 4v terminator would be bad ass but the 02 has a lot of sentimental value from my father. Here is a picture of the set up. supercharger.webp

Honestly, don't buy that. Buy a used vortech kit on ebay for 2k.You can get non intercooled and still get 350+hp easily with your engine. You can easily get to 380 safely. Or if your prefer the roots type, buy the tork tech kit and install it. That kit is 500hp capable as well.

If not that then just take that 1000 you plan on spending on the supercharger and buy heads and cams. Again your better off since you'd be saving money overall. If you buy that unit, upgrade to a 5.0 stroker do heads and cams you still wont be over 400hp. Trust me I know. I did that too! I sold my saleen unit for the vortech because I couldnt get over 380 with that crap. I have a 5.1L stroker with comp cams, heads and an intercooled vortech pushing 14psi.

Second, is that all your getting from him? There is a ton of parts needed to make that kit complete, here are a few that I can think of from my kit. Intercooler, Intercooler hoses, Coolant tank, water pump, Fans on intercooler, CCRM modual, alternator relocation kit, Inlet tube, and a new metal tube from the water pump to the rear of the engine. I forget the name of that tube, but without it the supercharger will not fit on the engine that is a 100% must have. Without it you'll be mad since your engine is torn apart and you cant drive it without that piece. Any missing part will cost an arm and leg at the steelership.

Here are a few bad things about that kit. 1) the intercooler is terrible it doesnt cool all the air some hot 200degree air reaches the engine. This is 1 main reason the supercharger sucks! running air intake temps of over 150degrees all the time is bad on the engine, plus you loose timing and loose power! 2) I seemed to loose gas mileage with that unit, probably the bad air temps plus extra weight. 3) You will also get belt slip switching pulleys, not really gaining power.

If this was a roush kit! I'd say 100% do it. Roush makes top quality products and there kit is worth every penny. Roush owners have reached 400rwhp with that charger before, its not easy but can be done. The saleen barley gets passed 370 with thousands tossed into porting, fixing intercooler, fixing lower intake manifold and so on.

Either way good luck with your project, but to be totally honest if your rebuilding your engine skip the supercharger. Buy a short block, heads and cams and run that till you can afford a supercharger. The saleen is way to much hassle why do you think its 1 so cheap 2 pretty easy to find used. Roush chargers and never used unless that person rebuilt there engine and wanted more power.
 
It definitely looks nice. I'd say throw the blower on the way it is and see what you get. A smaller pulley will add a lot more heat. Besides, if you run it as it is then you can check to see how much boost and power you're getting. You can also keep an eye on the air/fuel ratio and make adjustments. You can always pulley it down, add cams, increase timing, etc when you're certain that everything is running right. You can even upgrade to a Kenne Bell blower later. I think they have a unit that will bolt right to the Saleen intake.

actually they dont make one that fits the saleen intake. They do make one that fits the cobra intake, or the tork tech 03 cobra intake. That saleen unit is non upgradeable. The saleen intake is so restricted that even tossing on a kenney bell 2.1 wouldn't gain much power at all.
 
Im not sure if it matters but it is a series 2 supercharger? maybe a little easer? Also do you know a good heat extanger and water pump? I believe the kit he is selling comes with the stock intercooler. Also can you tell me what a ccrm module is, and its functions? I guess i just figure I can sell this kit for the same price I bought it for when I decide to upgrade.
Thanks
 
Im not sure if it matters but it is a series 2 supercharger? maybe a little easer? Also do you know a good heat extanger and water pump? I believe the kit he is selling comes with the stock intercooler. Also can you tell me what a ccrm module is, and its functions? I guess i just figure I can sell this kit for the same price I bought it for when I decide to upgrade.
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All Saleen superchargers use crappy intake manifolds. The intake runners are small and create alot of heat. The reason the supercharger performs so poorly is the fact that it creates to much heat. Thats why Roush's m90 kits work way better. The design was superb.

As for buying that kit. Don't do it unless you already did. For 1k thats not a good deal at all if thats all you get! I bought mine complete for 1.5k with everything (including fuel pump and injectors and tune).

A heat exchanger will cost you about $300, then you need a water pump $115
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You also need a Reservoir coolant tank. Since there isnt many options your left with $250
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Then you need a smaller pulley $100, Smaller belt $30

So far with just that your looking at $795 extra. So that supercharger kit is costing you 1800 already and still missing parts!

Then your missing various parts that can only be purchased through saleen. Expect to pay an arm and a leg for those parts.

Then if you want to fix the leaky intercooler expect to pay $799
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Then your at 2.5k! + missing parts! Trust me that unit is more hassle then its worth! On top of that saleen parts are extremely hard to some by, they don't make alot of parts anymore and if you cant find a certain part the kit is useless.

If this was a 100% complete kit I'd say install it, but because you just have the head unit and lower intake manifold you actually lost money. Just the head unit and lower intake manifold can be had for less that 1k on ebay all the time.

Ask for a refund if you can. If not good luck installing it.
 
I forgot to mention the CCRM modual controls the water pump as well as the fans on the heat exchanger. since you'd be getting aftermarket heat exchanger and water pump you could just wire it up to a 12v that comes on when you turn your car on. So that is 1 item you could do without.

Again without that new waterpump metal tube you cant drop that supercharger in at all. The stock tube sits up higher and the new one moves out of the lower intake manifolds way. That is a hard to find part.