grendal said:You can tell you guys aren't GM followers, heh.
The 2004 GTO is a stop-gap car. It's a 3-year run.... after which, a Pontiac Division GM-designed and U.S.-built version will replace it. The new version is speculated to be considerably more aggressive in its styling -- for those who think the '04 is too mildly designed...
On the other hand, if you're like me, and you like how the Grand Prix looks, but wanted it RWD with a V8 -- the '04 GTO is just perfect.... and that interior.... wow.... it's BMW-esque at a price lower than a 330i and vastly lower than an M3, and with more power than both. It's got a 350hp V8, IRS, 6-speed, NICE interior, and room for 4 ADULTS in it... This isn't a Camaro back seat.... it's actually meant to be a 4 passenger car.... I can see some appeal here.... I'm the kind who would have a Monte Carlo SS if it was RWD V8.... and that's who will buy this car.
Anyway, I agree, that the new Mustang is good for making GM wake up a little about the Camaro. Rumor is an '07 is in the early stages now.... the hold-up was an appropriate platform. The Sigma wasn't an appropriate platform, but apparently the upcomign Holden platform willl work... they will cut the length down and it will give them the low-cowl look they need for a Camaro.... we shall see in a year or so when some drawings should surface.
-Michael
Ned said:it's too bad about what happened to the camaro... hell I make fun of them left right and center (well all chevs actually) but doesnt mean I dont like em! just means I dont like em as much as Fordsheh
it is sad though, the mustang and the camaro were a nice, albeit strange pair. it was a good rivalry! c'mon what else is out there for us now... hondas=not in our league. corvette=out of our leagueHopefully the camaro will return and the pony car war can continue. plus, then I'll have a new camaro to make fun of
ryanrule said:the thing about the gto is it isnt a muscle car, its another big sedan. the hp aint that spectacular for that kinda car, alot of v6 sedans are in the 250-270 range, for a mid twenties price
Nazgul said:Maybe the Chevy boys' dreams will prove true and the camaro will be reborn in '07. It would be 1967 all over again.
Ron Jeremy said:I want to see GM bring back the Camaro and Firebird. I also want to see Dodge bring back the Charger and Challenger. And I want to see Plymouth bring back the early 70's Barracuda and GTX. And finally, I would like to see GM bring back the REAL GTO, not the Pontiac Grand AM. The GTO looks FUGLY!
MrBobMarley said:I cant say I miss the camaro, but it would be cool to have my generation pumped with the late 60's car enthusiasm. The rivalry always brought out the best from each company, that's why my favorite cars ever are old school muscle. As long as this new camaro looks NOTHING like the past 25 years of camaros I'll be happy. I hope they do the retro thing, but at least try to follow ford's lead, and do it right.
I think the last thing chevy needs is a redesigned catfish (late 90's model). They gotta do it retro, or if not some awesome new redesign. Either way would be cool with me.
ryanrule said:the thing about the gto is it isnt a muscle car, its another big sedan. the hp aint that spectacular for that kinda car, alot of v6 sedans are in the 250-270 range, for a mid twenties price
ThRippeR said:In my opinion the new GTO is an uninspired design. The attitude is missing for it to be considered a musclecar to me.
ThRippeR said:In my opinion the new GTO is an uninspired design. The attitude is missing for it to be considered a musclecar to me.
peyotesands said:Affirmative.
It takes more than HP to make a great car. Look at the butt ugly WRX... if it had a 1000 HP it would still blow.. it's ugly...
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