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1987fox5.0

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My mustang came with 245/45/17's when I bought it and when I back up and turn they rub bad. Fine going foward tho. Any suggestions?
 

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I'm guessing from your name it is on a 87. What kind of rims? 4 or 5 lug? If 5 lug what kind of converstion was used. Rubbing on inner plastic fender or on outer fender?
 

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its probabbly the front of the fenders im guessing
 

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We cant tell you what conversion is used without pics
 

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lowered at all? well if it is the front a bump steer kit could help. like above need more info to help ya out
 

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Could be rubbing on the control arm or k member. May need some rack limiters.
 

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Dont turn the wheel to so far
 
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Sorry The car is lowerd it rubs about half lock then its ok at full lock, i'm guessing fender
 

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Sounds like your most likely rubbing the fender on the front of the wheel well. If so continue to read..

NOW........ I'm sure someone will chime in and say I'm full of it but......

The 87 - 93 have a fender extension on the front portion that matches the nose/bumper cover.
The 87 - 90 is longer front to back than the 91 - 93 by 1".
In 91 Ford changed this to make room for the new 16" wheel/tire combo.
Many people believe that the fenders are different shape because it was said the wheel opening was made larger by 1", they are not. This is where I'm sure to get lots of arguments. 79 - 93 fenders are all the same size and shape. The only differences are the location of or lack of some pre-drilled holes.
Best solution, find the fender extensions for a 91 - 93 Mustang and drill any necessary holes to mount them. This will give you the larger opening and still match up to the bumper cover.

I have 245/45-17 on my 87 Notch and they do not rub the fenders at all, with the original fenders and the replacement fenders on my car, one from an 86 GT and the other off a 90 LX. And as you can see I do have my car lowered.



Because I have the 91 - 93 Saleen front valance on my car I just removed the fender extension completely because it covers this area. And even with my SVO/Lincoln 5 lug conversion there is no rubbing.

If you look at this older picture of my car this is with 94 16" Ponys and the fender extensions on the car. With standard size tires it rubbed and as you can see the Saleen valance doesn't fit properly.



Hope this is helpful.
 
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1987fox5.0

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Looked today and it looks like its rubbing the side of the tread, the car is lowerd and it has camber plates and strut bar and fender spacers and all that so maybe I just need to adjust it?
 

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rack limiters. done
 
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Its sseems to rub at about half turn then its ok at full turn, if that makes sence?
 
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also only does it in reverse, not foward
 

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Winner winner chicken dinner... Been there, done that, posted it about 4 years ago. Good job Raven

The fenders are different. Period. I bought a car with mismatched fenders once and never noticed it til I went to 17x9's. Had to actually buy a fender and trim piece to get it to stop rubbing (still rubbed at full lock).

The fenders are different and I have picture proof and it being midnight I may or may not look those pictures up.

raven_ghostwolf said:
Sounds like your most likely rubbing the fender on the front of the wheel well. If so continue to read..

NOW........ I'm sure someone will chime in and say I'm full of it but......

The 87 - 93 have a fender extension on the front portion that matches the nose/bumper cover.
The 87 - 90 is longer front to back than the 91 - 93 by 1".
In 91 Ford changed this to make room for the new 16" wheel/tire combo.
Many people believe that the fenders are different shape because it was said the wheel opening was made larger by 1", they are not. This is where I'm sure to get lots of arguments. 79 - 93 fenders are all the same size and shape. The only differences are the location of or lack of some pre-drilled holes.
Best solution, find the fender extensions for a 91 - 93 Mustang and drill any necessary holes to mount them. This will give you the larger opening and still match up to the bumper cover.

I have 245/45-17 on my 87 Notch and they do not rub the fenders at all, with the original fenders and the replacement fenders on my car, one from an 86 GT and the other off a 90 LX. And as you can see I do have my car lowered.



Because I have the 91 - 93 Saleen front valance on my car I just removed the fender extension completely because it covers this area. And even with my SVO/Lincoln 5 lug conversion there is no rubbing.

If you look at this older picture of my car this is with 94 16" Ponys and the fender extensions on the car. With standard size tires it rubbed and as you can see the Saleen valance doesn't fit properly.



Hope this is helpful.
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Maybe its an age thing, but why does everyone think they need these huge ass rims and tires on cars not ever designed for them? Are Hot Wheels that cool? Just wondering, I don't understand, my 86 went 11.40 on 15x7 Ten Holers with 9 inch M/H's and looked plenty cool.
 
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I'm acually a huge fan of the wheels but they came with the car
 

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Strype said:


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Interesting was that an OEM fender or aftermarket?
 

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I still think the turbines rock and if I had a GT it would have them.


raven_ghostwolf said:
Interesting was that an OEM fender or aftermarket?
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That's a picture I got off of ebay... Found one guy who actually illistrated the difference. Everyone else sells one type for all applications.
 
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Yea there is definatly a difference in 79-90 fenders to 91-93 fenders. measure the bottom of the fender on front of the wheel of a early fender and then go to a 91-93 fender and measure that. the bottom of the fender is an inch shorter from the front to the wheel opening.
 
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