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347 build on a D4DE block - Thoughts and Advice

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bnero42 said:
Yes - Scat through summit.
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I am in contact with summit racing also, they send to me a link with this kit for around 1600 usd. Did you pay also that?
 

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Like seeing the body on the rotisserie and all the fun new parts.

Carry On!
 
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CrisNavarro said:
I am in contact with summit racing also, they send to me a link with this kit for around 1600 usd. Did you pay also that?
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summit part - SCA-1-94165 - $961 usd - bought it in May
 
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bnero42 said:
I am going to go with some DART aluminum heads through the machine shop - I will have room to upgrade
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Actually - I went with AFR 185's for like 200$ more.....
 
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summit part - SCA-1-94165 - $961 usd - bought it in May
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I am going to talk tomorrow with Summit Racing to check the difference between the two 347 stroker kits.
Your basis is 302?
 
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Actually - I went with AFR 185's for like 200$ more.....
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Really? From Summit racing? But the couple heads AFR 185 are much more expensive right?
 
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Filler primer and metal work started!
 
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She's on the frame machine and looking good . Did she need a little pull?
 
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She's on the frame machine and looking good . Did she need a little pull?
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I was not advices that she did - The person that I bought it from had done some frame work. Glad it wasn't an issue that needed to be brought up in the "assessment" discussion.
 
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Hi bnero42,
I contact Summitracing and they offer my this kit: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/esp-b16422la030/make/ford, it is for two valves.
Your kit is for four valves right? (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sca-1-94165)
If you install 4 valves cylinder heads, are you going to got more HP? Or what is the reason?
Where did you got your AFR 185 for 200 USD? It is used?
TIA
 
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CrisNavarro said:
Hi bnero42,
I contact Summitracing and they offer my this kit: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/esp-b16422la030/make/ford, it is for two valves.
Your kit is for four valves right? (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sca-1-94165)
If you install 4 valves cylinder heads, are you going to got more HP? Or what is the reason?
Where did you got your AFR 185 for 200 USD? It is used?
TIA
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If I said 200$ I meant 2k - and
CrisNavarro said:
Hi bnero42,
I contact Summitracing and they offer my this kit: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/esp-b16422la030/make/ford, it is for two valves.
Your kit is for four valves right? (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sca-1-94165)
If you install 4 valves cylinder heads, are you going to got more HP? Or what is the reason?
Where did you got your AFR 185 for 200 USD? It is used?
TIA
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If I said 200$ I meant 2k - and my pistons have reliefs for 2 valves as are my AFR’s
 
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Hi bnero42,
thank you for your answer. 2000 usd sound like I found in internet. Do you know maybe another cheap option, GT40 or GT40p will be a good idea? GT40p are easy to find here and around 250 usd.
Ok then you have reliefs for 2 valves pistons, but in the description from your summitracing link said:
Piston Style: Flat top, with four valve reliefs .
 

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CrisNavarro said:
Hi bnero42,
thank you for your answer. 2000 usd sound like I found in internet. Do you know maybe another cheap option, GT40 or GT40p will be a good idea? GT40p are easy to find here and around 250 usd.
Ok then you have reliefs for 2 valves pistons, but in the description from your summitracing link said:
Piston Style: Flat top, with four valve reliefs .
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Flat top pistons with 4 valve reliefs mean that they can be installed in either orientation or side in the engine. Some pistons, domed pistons for example, can only be installed in one orientation. That's what the "4 valve reliefs" in the description means.

 
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LILCBRA said:
Flat top pistons with 4 valve reliefs mean that they can be installed in either orientation or side in the engine. Some pistons, domed pistons for example, can only be installed in one orientation. That's what the "4 valve reliefs" in the description means.

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Thank you!
 
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LILCBRA said:
Flat top pistons with 4 valve reliefs mean that they can be installed in either orientation or side in the engine. Some pistons, domed pistons for example, can only be installed in one orientation. That's what the "4 valve reliefs" in the description means.

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And do you have any suggestion of other more cheap cylinder heads that can be used for this 347? Maybe this GT40p?
I bought a Tremec T5 from Mustang T5 and a rear end 8.8" posi with a 3.73.
 

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When you say cheap, what do you mean? How much do you want to spend? I don't think GT40P heads will do a 347 justice, so I don't think you'll get along well spending just $250 USD.
 
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When you say cheap, what do you mean? How much do you want to spend? I don't think GT40P heads will do a 347 justice, so I don't think you'll get along well spending just $250 USD.
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Cheap I mean maybe something from second hand, that I can use. I live in Mexico and I found for 250 usd a GT40p, but you have to rework it.
 

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There aren't many options under $1000 USD. Your best bet is to keep an eye on your local classified ads, Facebook Marketplace, Craigslist, etc. You can try other sites like racingjunk as well, you might get lucky. But doing so you'll have to research whatever you find to see if it would even be worth buying for your application.
 
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There aren't many options under $1000 USD. Your best bet is to keep an eye on your local classified ads, Facebook Marketplace, Craigslist, etc. You can try other sites like racingjunk as well, you might get lucky. But doing so you'll have to research whatever you find to see if it would even be worth buying for your application.
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Tnahk you LILCBRA,
do you know another option extra besides the GT40p?
 

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For the money and what they advertise for flow numbers and such, these don't look too bad on paper. Someone is using them in a build in the Fox section but I haven't heard how they're working for him yet.

Maxx 180 SBF (Sold in Pairs) - PROMAXX Performance Products

The SBF Maxx 180 is an as cast head that beats the competition. Don’t let the size fool you, flowing over 260 cfm, this head makes real power. It puts out up to 20 hp over the competition.
promaxxperformance.com

There is also this set, but I'm not sure how well they'd support a 347.

Store - FLOTEK

This item is not sold as a pair, this is a single cylinder head. Please select a quantity of 2 on the following page to order a pair of cylinder heads FLOTEK Performance cylinder heads feature as-cast ports and are designed for entry level street performance applications operating in the...
www.flotekheads.com

Flotek has bigger heads, but those are their lowest priced. The bigger ones would probably work a lot better:

Store - FLOTEK

This item is not sold as a pair, this is a single cylinder head. Please select a quantity of 2 on the following page to order a pair of cylinder heads Here we go again! FLOTEK Performance Cylinder Head debuts the NEW~AS-CAST Small Block Ford Head for Fall of 2018. “The Hammer” 205 cc...
www.flotekheads.com

That's just what I can think of off the top of my head for low price points.
 
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