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I'm trying to learn more about mod motors and swaps so a question came to mind. Is there a aluminum 5.4 block besides the fordgt/gt500 block? Also, with a 5.4 swap is it possible to keep a stock hood on any of the new edge sn95? I know they have spacers to keep a 4.6 4v intake on a 5.4 just wondering if you have to do drop motor mounts like a 302 to 351 swap on a foxbody. Also, are the advantages of a 5.4 far superior to that of a 4.6? I know they have quite a bit more displacement.
 
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the GT500 uses an iron block. i saw in the 2009 FRPP catalog that they do offer an Aluminum 5.4 block thats machined for wet sump and starter. Sean Hyland also has his own 5.4L block.
 
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for how much?
 
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Not sure about an FRPP 5.4 aluminum block, but they do make an aluminum 5.0 block.

It's $5000 for a bare block.

It'd be cheaper to do a big bore 4.6 if you really want the displacement.
 
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what is involved in a 5.4 swap into a sn95 car? Does it bolt right in and plug right up? Can it fit under the factory hood with little mods?
 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the GT500 and the Ford GT use an iron block.
 
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32ValveRom said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the GT500 and the Ford GT use an iron block.
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you are partly correct. the GT500 uses an iron block, however the Ford GT Supercar uses an Aluminum block.
 
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bditty50 said:
what is involved in a 5.4 swap into a sn95 car? Does it bolt right in and plug right up? Can it fit under the factory hood with little mods?
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Will it bolt right in, yes for the most part. Will the stock hood still fit? Probably not because the 5.4 has almost a full inch more deck height than the 4.6. The 5.4L is literally a stroked 4.6L with some extra deck-height.

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ford super car

my friend at ford says the super car uses the terminator internals,,,4.6 rocks and has plenty of power..why do you want a 5.4?
 
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hotcobra03 said:
my friend at ford says the super car uses the terminator internals
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Which supercar? The 5.4 and the 4.6 do not share the same crank. The 5.4 crank uses a 4.165" stroke. The 4.6 crank uses a 3.540" stroke.

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crank?

U.M. i will ask him..he has worked at ford like forever,and he also is an engine rebuilder...he help me with my engine problem.. and the gt40 was what he was talking about,maybe i misunderstood him,,,but he was saying how the 03 cobra engine was tops untill that car,,,,,How about the new boss 302......
 
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your friend is wrong, the cranks are different, conrods are different. you cant get the pistons separate on the GT supercar, they are only serviced as a conrod/piston assembly.
 

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bdcardinal said:
your friend is wrong, the cranks are different, conrods are different. you cant get the pistons separate on the GT supercar, they are only serviced as a conrod/piston assembly.
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hey thanks for that information...i will let him know...I like to share what i learn and now i feel like sh$t'''I hate to give false information,,,,
 
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Partly, at one point the FGT was driving around with a Terminator motor while the 5.4 was still being designed.
 
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