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5.8 Lightning motor and trans

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dads 68

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I,m thinking I want to drop the drive train from a first generation f150 lightning down into my 68 ranchero. Seems like everybody is doing the 5.0 conversions to there old fords now-a days but I,m thinking why not the lightning motor? Has anybody here been down that road or do you know where to send me for more info on this?
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If I'm not mistaken, you're going to want the "brain" and harness, as well, to take full advantage of the engine's stock 'build'. Should be an EEC IV computer; I know that the '95 truck 5.8 was indeed a Mass-Air motor.

The only thing that might be a problem is that the Lightning trans is (I THINK) an E4OD/4R100; which has a greater girth and height than a C6 auto. You might have some clearance issues with the Fairlane/Ranchero tranny tunnel.
 

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That would be a cool swap. I'm not sure if the E40D will fit well in the transmission tunnel though. Its rather large. You could probably mate it to a beefed up 4R70W?

The origninal Lightnings are awesome! I wish I had a 1st Gen Lightning drivetrain for my 95 F150.



Not all 95 F150s are mass air. Some of them are speed density. The original Lightnings are speed density.

I agree, you will want the computer and wiring harness from the truck. You will need it to also control the transmission.
 
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thanks for the welcome and interest

I was hopeing to find a compleat lightning in the junk yard and did yesterday but it was missing the intake manifolds and I understand the aftermarkets give hood clearance problems. But then, cause of cash for clunkers, they got to crush the block and so they guy would.t give me a package price and the seperat parts started to add up real quick and I wanted a whole truck to pick over and sell whats left like you used to do but it ain,t happining.And I bet your right the E4OD is big but I could work that out. And I,m hearing that speed density isn,t so bad to deal with and that the E4OD in the lightning is a beefed up version and it likes getting it.s orders from the speed density program so thats the way I would try to keep it. Maybe I will be happy with a stroked out 5.0 mass efi aod but still have my heart set on 5.8 lightning if I can find one. I know they only made 11 thousand 1st gen lightnings so there hard to find but a 68 ranchero lightning would be so cool.
I know there has to be others out there that have been down this road before me so turn me onto them if you can. Thanks again
 

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I think it will be difficult to find a complete Lightning in a salvage yard that hasn't already had parts removed.

There was a guy selling a complete Lightning engine top to bottom with the ECM and wiring harness a while back on Ebay.
 

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tx65coupe said:
Not all 95 F150s are mass air. Some of them are speed density. The original Lightnings are speed density.

I agree, you will want the computer and wiring harness from the truck. You will need it to also control the transmission.
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Didn't know about the SD EFI in '95..... in fact the only '95 hood I spent any minute amount of time under was my son-in-law's "Grape Ape"; which had MAF.

As far as SD systems go; look at how many aftermarket SD systems are out there; and some rodders PREFER it to a MAF system, so
 

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My truck is mass air, but many I have seen are speed density.

I think that all 96 trucks are mass air, since they are OBD II.
 
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