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trbkrb

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bigvino said:
The rear drums are included with the kit and they came off a 91 LX. but i dont think the Rear Axels are from a 99-04 model though.. its just the spindles are from a '01...ive heard that the 01 spindles stick out about 8mm..compared to the SN95.... but ill hold on to the 01 front spindles till they become a eye sore..
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Good. You should be OK then for the rears then as they are the Ranger type axles. They fronts will stick out, and it will be a somewhat noticeable difference from the rears. The 94-95 spindles do push out the fronts about 5mm, so add that to the 96-04 spindles and that is about 13mm total further out than the stock Fox spindle.

I mailed a guy on here the front parts from a 2001 that he put on his 86 GT. I think he used the same wheels too, and in his pics, you could see that the fronts stuck out more than the rears. As long as you use the 17x8 wheels and no wider than 245 tires up front, it will work. May not look pretty, but it will work. The 94-98 axles and disc brakes make a better rear end match using those wheels and 96-04 spindles since the axles are 3/4" longer.
 

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ahhh ok... ill just keep a look out for someone selling some 94-98 rear axles or ill just go to the junk yard and pick some up...question could i pick up that adapter at auto zone or advance auto parts??
 

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For the brake lines it's better to get Braided lines that are made to mate certain calipers to the fox body hard lines.
I got mine from Discbrakesrus.com

Since you don't have the rear disc stuff as of right now.
I urge you not to do the 94+ rear lenght axles.
When the axles are longer you are restricted to certain offset rims.
When the axles are shorter (fox length) if you need to push the wheels out, you could always use spacers. Many people don't keep rims for life. Long term the fox axles are better.
 

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You should be able to find the adapter at a bigger parts place. It just needs to be a 1/4" female to 3/8" male inverted flare adapter, see the specs on the website I posted. You can take your brake lines to the parts store and get the one that fits.

This pic has the 94-98 axles with 17x8 wheels I believe, I want my car to look like this one day:



I'll post some pics of mine in a bit.

200xp8 is right if you think you might change to a wider wheel in the future. IMO all of the 17x8" Ford wheels look best with the 94-98 axles. It brings the wheels out nicely under the fenders. But if you want a 9" wheel, stick with the Fox length axles. I have the fox length axles on my car, and I plan to change to the 94-98 axles since I will be sticking with the 17x8 Bullitt wheels for a long while.
 

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in your opinion which axles should i get for the 03 cobra wheels? those are the wheels i ultimately want to have...
 

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bigvino said:
in your opinion which axles should i get for the 03 cobra wheels? those are the wheels i ultimately want to have...
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They are 17x9 so keep the Fox length axles and drums. You really should use the 94-95 spindles then if you can find them. But you can use the newer spindles and you can change to rear disc if you feel like it later on.
 

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dude im soo close to being done.... i just ran into a obstacle... the brake lines wont "brake" im having a hard time removing the brake lines..
 

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You using brake line wrenches? Hopefully you can get them loose. Which one(s) are giving you a problem?
 

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Do you have a flareing kit? I had a hell of a time taking my old ones off but vice grips took care of most of them so I ended up making my own lines with all new fittings
 

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the brake line on the driver side..right next to the bracket...i really dont want to round-out the flaring...
 

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i tried again and i started to rounding the faring..what do you think i should do now?? try a vice grips.. or get new brake lines?? thanks guys.. youve been a great help..
 

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That one can be removed by unbolting it from the combination valve below the master cylinder, and it can be snaked out of the wheel well pretty easily. Mine was messed up like that too, before I went and got the special brake line wrenches that go around the nut. I ended up just replacing it with a line I got from a 4 cyl at the salvage yard, instead of trying to flare it successfully.

If you have already rounded it off, just go ahead and use the vice grips. It's not like you will be removing them often. If you can get a new line, or even just a used one to replace it, then you can always replace it later.
 

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I think I had problems with the same one. Are you using flare wrenches? If not, they're well worth it. Anyways, spray it with PB blaster and let it sit for a little bit. If it's too banged up, use vise grips.
 

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imma try again in the morning.. if i round it off any more.. im just going to replace the driver side line..
 

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Hey Bigvino are you anywhere near CT? I have a parts car and I'm pretty sure I have the line you need for the drivers side. I'll take a look for it if you're interested
 

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I had one that wouldn't go either.
ended up twisting the line by the fitting.
Went and got a cut and flare kit with a new fitting and did it that way.
The bracket actually had a hole to be moved back, i guess for manufacturing tolerances.

As far as your question on which axles are better.
The answer is always fox length. Since it allows you to use any rim at any time.
The 94+ only lets you use certain rims.
There is no advantage ever to using 94+ axles.
You can always push wheels out with spacers, but you can never take them in if your axles are too long.
Too short=ok with spacers
Too long=new rims
Hence shorter axles are always better.
 

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2000xp8 said:
As far as your question on which axles are better.
The answer is always fox length. Since it allows you to use any rim at any time.
The 94+ only lets you use certain rims.
There is no advantage ever to using 94+ axles.
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Three letters. ABS I have everything to put a 96 ABS system on my car except for the front hubs with the ABS rings. That is one reason I plan to change to the 94-98 axles. One of these days!
 

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Three letters. ABS I have everything to put a 96 ABS system on my car except for the front hubs with the ABS rings. That is one reason I plan to change to the 94-98 axles. One of these days!
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Ya, i'm aware.
It's just that probably 99.9% of people don't do it.
 

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Finished product.... what do yall think??
Thanks to 2000xp8, tkbkrb and bills89GT yall help soo much!
 

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No problem, glad I could help. It looks really good. I like the hood too I have the same one
 
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