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67 289 AC belt/pulley dilemna. :shrug:

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CanyonCarver515

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Here is the situation:

67 FB with 289 and stock A/C. It's a California car, so it had a Smog pump in the mix and belt runs to it. It goes Crank/ AC/ Smog pump. I want to toss this Smog pump that's noisy, worn out, useless and an eyesore, but it appears that I could not run a belt directly from the crank to the AC if I tried.

I'd like to run it through the water pump (that is if it had 3 grooves in it). The water pump pulley only has 2 grooves.

What to do?

Is there out there a water pump pulley with 3 grooves? NPD does not know...
 
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My 66' 289 WP pulley has 3 grooves (1 small,2 large) also a california smog motor (I believe) so they are definately out there. You might try Laurel Mtn., or Dallas Mustang. HTH.
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PAW used to sell the 3 groove pulleys. Can you tension the belt with the A/C compressor ? Or does it use the smog pump for this ? The non smog cars used the idler pulley on the A/C bracket (driver's side of engine) to tension the belt.
 

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D.Hearne said:
PAW used to sell the 3 groove pulleys. Can you tension the belt with the A/C compressor ? Or does it use the smog pump for this ? The non smog cars used the idler pulley on the A/C bracket (driver's side of engine) to tension the belt.
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This might be the ticket, as I"m sure there's no adjustment on the AC pump side. The Smog pump used to be the one that tensionned the belt.
 

Rusty67

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My 67 was a CA car too but when I removed the smog pump it was on its own belt.... Wierd... I wonder if I still have my accessory brackets in storage...
 

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March makes a nice pulley set

for the SBF.
 
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you might need an idler pulley.
 

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68GT500KR_Vert said:
for the SBF.
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Who ar what is March?
 

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mustangman1974 said:
you might need an idler pulley.
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Yes, it sounds like I would need one.
 
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CanyonCarver515 said:
Who ar what is March?
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March is a company that makes high-end (dollar) accessory brackets and pulleys for many applications. Some of their complete front accesory drive systems run well over $1000 and I think some double that.
 

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the 302 kits are about $300-400

and very nice.

http://www.marchperf.com/ford_serps.html

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+400108+4294908331+115+4294840126
 

68GT500KR_Vert

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http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MCH-30166&N=700+115&autoview=sku

Serp Pulley Kit

http://www.marchperf.com/pg36.html
V-Pulley Kit (THIS IS PROB> WHAT YOU WANT) UNDER $250
 

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I reused the stock bracket with some mods done to it.
The sanden comp is smaller and lighter but I didn't like the way the idler bracket attached to the pump.

With cutting it down and making my own mount, I have more room to the dist and water outlet.

Just take your time and line up the belt/pulley so it won't fly off at 6k rpm.

PB
 

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CanyonCarver515

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Apparently, I should be able to use a 65-66 adjustable idler pulley. I think that it mounts to the water pump and should do the job. I saw a picture of a car equipped as such and it looks like it will work on mine.

It's $80 through NPD. I will search for a better deal in the meantime, but it looks as it this should do the trick.
 
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On my early 67 coupe w/factory AC (non-smog), w/PS uses this bracket:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/65-6...tegoryZ10076QQihZ008QQitemZ180134094543QQrdZ1

It is the pivot point of the alt and the 2 sets of slots adjust idler as it bolts to the waterpump. There is another setup that has a pivot on the "dog leg bracket" but i dont have that.
 
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This is the other setup I was thinking about. I assume it uses the non-AC alt pivot bracket.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/65-6...tegoryZ34197QQihZ008QQitemZ180134857045QQrdZ1
 
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