'69 Mustang + '99 Explorer 5.0

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Our shop has inherited a project.

A 1999 Explorer 5.0 in a 69 Mustang- MAF, AOD, not electronic transmission.

Everything's in place except for wiring. How best to proceed?

We found a place that will customize the harness and computer for $1500, just wanted to check and see if this was a common swap and what you might recommend.

What harness, what ecu, what sensors, etc?

Thanks,
Vic

 

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ForceFed70

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$1500 is alot of a harness!

I didn't realize they put 5.0's in the 99 explorers.

I guess this depends on what the customer wants. If he wants a performance ECU that he can tune, I'd suggest a megasquirt ECU. If he wants something that he can just use and forget about it, then the factory ECU should work fine.

 

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70_Nitrous_Eater said:

If he wants something that he can just use and forget about it, then the factory ECU should work fine.

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They want use and forget. But...the Explorer harness feeds an AODE tranny and requires many sensor inputs that are not on a 69. Not doable IMO.

Would a harness from a pre-93 5.0 mustang work? No ABS, no AODE, no speed sensors etc...

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livenfine said:

They want use and forget. But...the Explorer harness feeds an AODE tranny and requires many sensor inputs that are not on a 69. Not doable IMO.

Would a harness from a pre-93 5.0 mustang work? No ABS, no AODE, no speed sensors etc...

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You would need the ECU from an older mustang as well.

I'm sure the newer ECU will work fine with the ABS and AODE stuff disconnected. But I don't know how it would react to not having the speed sensor.

I think you'd be better off using an ECU and harness from an older mustang.

 

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you can't use a Fox Body or even an SN95 harness because they're based on TFI ignitions (IE - the use a distributor).

correct me if i'm wrong, but all the explorer 5.0s use distributor-less ignition.

i think your best bet is going to either add a distributor and run a Fox harness and computer, or run some sort of standalone computer (which doesn't sound like an option).

 

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Or you could just carb it. The AOD doesn't need anything but the cable.

 

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id suggest a 89-93 mustang setup the harness is fairly easilt sorted out

 

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I'd go with a MAF 89-93 Mustang Computer & harness. You have to change to a TFI distributor & coil. A new aftermarket harness should be less than $600. Labor to have someone do it and sort it all out? $$$

A lot of good info here:

http://fordfuelinjection.com/?p=62

Good luck

 

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What Tim65GT said souns the easiest.
I am want convert my 5.0 to EDIS, but I like tinkering, and don't know when to leave well enough alone...

 

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Bullitt said:

you can't use a Fox Body or even an SN95 harness because they're based on TFI ignitions (IE - the use a distributor).

correct me if i'm wrong, but all the explorer 5.0s use distributor-less ignition.

i think your best bet is going to either add a distributor and run a Fox harness and computer, or run some sort of standalone computer (which doesn't sound like an option).

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You are correct. I forgot to mention it. Someone added a TFI distributor, that's another reason why we're leaning towards a fox mustang harness from 87-93.

 

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Max Power said:

Or you could just carb it. The AOD doesn't need anything but the cable.

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It being an AOD-E, it does need a computer to run it. I believe you can get a seperate controller for the AOD-E though. I forget what the controller is called, but it will also allow you to switch between performance mode or economy mode and I think it is also programable. You might even be able to manually shift with it, but I can't remember.

If you used that you could use an '89-'93 mustang harness and computer for the motor. After you swap in a distributor ofcourse. You will also have to change the oil pan and a couple other things if I remember correctly. It wouldn't be a bad idea to swap the cam also since it has a "truck" cam.

 

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Here you go:

http://www.baumannengineering.com/tcs.htm

 

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cougar_68 said:

It wouldn't be a bad idea to swap the cam also since it has a "truck" cam.

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I'd leave that "truck" cam alone. It's better than you think. Just a step below the Stang's cam in duration. Lift, can be increased to equal the Stang's specs just by adding 1.7 rockers. Duration figures for the F4TE "truck" cam are 256/266 ( int/exh), lift with 1.7 rockers is .448/.473 ( int/exh) I've run this cam with ported E7's and 1.7 rockers, fed with a Holley 600VS on a Ford A321 intake and it was a pure pleasure to drive, especially with a 4 speed.