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Paul Randle

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yeah i think to be safe i am just going to down size to a 70mm throttle body and port a GT40 intake off a explorer to match. while i am in there i will just put in GT40p heads. Is port and polish worth the 700-1,000 price tag? whats the estimated gain in doing that?
 

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Paul Randle said:
Is port and polish worth the 700-1,000 price tag? whats the estimated gain in doing that?
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GT40 heads are really only worth porting if you can do it yourself at this point. If you think about it....you pick up the heads for what...$200. Spend another $700 on a good port job and you're into the heads far more than they're worth. I got my GT40X heads fresh from the machine shop with new guides, valve seals and a fresh decking, with a little port work done to them already on top of it all for $700 shipping included.

So really...if you're willing to sink that kind of money into it, you'd be further ahead searching around for a decent aluminum casting. Not only will out of the box aluminum heads support more power than even the best ported GT40 heads, but you'll knock 50lbs off the nose of your car to boot.
 
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No, it isn't worth it. Unless you're in factory stock or some class that mandates those heads. I had a set of GT40X heads back in 2002 that I sold for $800, turned around and bought a set of AFR165s for 1,250 for my 302. I added some other stuff, but attribute the biggest part of my 50rwhp gain to them. Plus, I still had the room to grow. If I had it to do over again, I'd go straight to an AFR 185 or Fast as cast 190cc Trick Flow Twisted wedge head for another 302. I'd still do the custom cam, and would probably shoot for a higher revving intake like the systemax II or RPM II. I'd be trying to hustle that 302 to 6500+ RPM. Then, you'd probably be alright to run that 75, too. I'm not 100% sure, but I'd bet that the systemax is a good fit for that 75.

Now for full disclosure, I changed a lot of that old combo for those extra ponies: ported the lower cobra intake, custom cam instead of a comp cam, and went from shorty headers to long-tubes and brought the compression up by somewhere between .5-1 point.
 

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okay yeah that makes sense, not really looking to spend that kind of money right now so i will stick with no "port and polish" lol
thanks you
 

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Keep in mind if you use the GT40P heads you will need new headers.
 

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Keep in mind if you use the GT40P heads you will need new headers.
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With stock headers, most likely yes. But, with a lot of aftermarket headers, you're able to run a 90 degree spark plug boot and be okay. Or you can bust out the torch and some big as* channel locks. Had to do that on my Bronco lol
 

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i was told my bbk headers will fit GT40P headers. not sure if its true tho
 

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Yes, the BBK's will work with the "P" heads. Plug access on the drivers side will be tight, but it's doable. You'll want 90-degree plug wires with that head/header combination too. The Ford Racing set is nice.
 
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perfect thanks again man
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
Yes, the BBK's will work with the "P" heads. Plug access on the drivers side will be tight, but it's doable. You'll want 90-degree plug wires with that head/header combination too. The Ford Racing set is nice.
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I had MAC shortys that worked also. Good idea to buy protector sleeves also. I learned the hard way on that.. Stupid wires were arcing off the headers because they were so close.. Bought a set of eBay sleeves and problem disappeared. Prob 25-30$ well spent, plus they keep your wires from getting burnt. They can lay right on the header with no problems. You will most likely need to modify a spark plug socket for a couple of the plugs.. Unless you put the plugs in before you bolt the headers on.
 

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cool
thank you
 

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My dad has P heads on his car and Flowtech equal length long tubes and he was able to make it work without heating or bending. A 90 degree spark plug wire really does help, even with headers that aren't advertised to work with the P heads. But, I think he also had to use a shorter style spark plug to gain a little bit more room.
 

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Fyi guys the trick flow street burner intake opening is 75mm. No idea wht u guys all think that no intakes have a bigger opening then 70mm lol.
 

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Fyi guys the trick flow street burner intake opening is 75mm. No idea wht u guys all think that no intakes have a bigger opening then 70mm lol.
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Those guy's probably figured it out by now, that was 6 yrs ago.
 
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