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8.8 Axle Gear Oil and Modifier Question

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Afternoon Folks. I'm almost done "dry fitting" all of my parts and start locking things down on my 5 lug disc brake upgrade (88 GT Vert) and I've read through a whole bunch of info regarding filling up the Rear Axle.
Here is what I have:
  • 8.8 with new 3.73's and a new diff cover (https://www.americanmuscle.com/frpp-finned-88-diff-cover.html) which is a bit roomier than the stock metal can the Axle came with.
  • 2 qt bottles of Royal Purple MaxGear 75 - 90, included with the gear kit.
  • 1 4 oz. bottle of Ford Performance Friction Modifier as well as 1 4 oz. bottle of Motorcraft Friction Modifier (1 of these must have come as part of a kit).
When it comes to filling the differential I generally hear "fill it up till it runs out the hole". My plan is to use 1 bottle of the friction mod first to ensure I get a full 4 ounces in then fill the remainder till it "runs out the hole"

Here is my question: With the larger diff cover (more capacity) should I put some or all of the 2nd friction modifier in and then fill it with the 2 quarts of 75 - 90 oil? There appears to be such a thing as too much friction mod. Should I just use the 1 bottle of friction mod and get another bottle of RP 75-90 and top it off?

I would really like to not trash the axle because I did not use the right amount and type of lubricant.

Please share your years of experience with me!

Thanks
 

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I would imagine the Royal Purple gear oil is synthetic, if so when I've used synthetic gear oil it had the modifier already in it.
Should specify on the label.
 

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I used the Royal Purple (synthetic) bought at local parts store and the modifier is in it (I didn't use an additional modifier). 13,000 km later no issues.
 

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Isn't the friction modifier for the clutch pack of the posi?
You didn't state weather your is a trac loc or not.
 

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2Blue2 said:
Isn't the friction modifier for the clutch pack of the posi?
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Thats what I've read. I'm going out on a limb here, but if his avatar is a pic of his car. If it is he has a GT Vert. Didn't all the GTs come with a trac loc rear?

Is it possible to have too much friction modifier? and if so how much would be to much?
 
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Red50Fox said:
(88 GT Vert)
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Olivethefet said:
Didn't all the GTs come with a trac loc rear?
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It should of been, but its a 30 yr old car and I didn't want to 'assume' anything
 
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Well, seems pretty straight forward right?
Or is it left?
Let us back up a few feet.
Wait, which direction are we going?
Right
Left
Forward or reverse?
Clear as mud
I used the royal purple gear lube and the modifier when it got the gear change and clutch pack rebuilt. I don't cut my ride no slack,
Don't over think it, fill it to the hole and add the modifier, drive it around the block or do a few figure 8s in a parking lot, check the level then drive it like it owes you money.
 

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Hi, thanks for the feedback. Yes the pic is correct 88 vert with 3.73 trac-loc. Sorry for thw confusion.
 

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General karthief said:
Don't over think it, fill it to the hole and add the modifier, drive it around the block or do a few figure 8s in a parking lot, check the level then drive it like it owes you money.
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I wish I could not over think it. I'd have been done with this a while ago. But, in my own defense it's been decades since took on a project like this. Thanks for the information.
 

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That cover has me wondering. For that price you can get an actual axle girdle.

Kurt
 

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I’ve typically filled my rear with Mobil 1 75w-140 and did not add friction mod.
 
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I think a few years ago Ford changed the spec to 75W-140 for the 8.8.
 

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I use synthetic 75w 140 with motorcraft friction modifier. There is a friction modifier in mobile 1 but the dealer still adds modifier to it.....and so do I.
 
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“Recommended Upgrade. When changing your differential cover it is recommended to upgrade to fresh Royal Purple Synthetic Gear Oil. You will need 3 quarts of Gear Oil.“

This, as well as most diff covers that aren’t of the stamped steel variety use 3 quarts of fluid. I’ve never personally been a synthetic gear oil kind of guy. Lots of manufacturers recommend just using conventional gear oil in their carriers

Regardless of whether the oil has the friction modifier or not I still add a bottle of the motorcraft stuff. You’ll get different answers as to oil weight, but I run the 75w-140 stuff. takes all day to fill 3 quarts worth with how thick it is.

I’ve also ran the 80w-90 before without issue. I’d just use what you got
 
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