So last night i took it out and i turned the vacuum advance 3 more times counter-clockwise and it's barely there now .I'm going to try again tonight but that would be like 30 turns out. The car runs better than ever though super smooth and the top end feels flawless pulls to 5500 no problem. i know i will figure this out eventually but I was just hoping that something stood out to someone like the fact that i'm running egr heads on a non egr engine. Pretty sure i'm not the first but i will jet up one more size on my primaries I have to buy this demon carb kit because the primaries are different they have a metering rod in them the secondaires are regular Holley style. I'm just at work and board and when i get home i barely get time to take it out. I'm planing on eventually buying some AFR heads i would just hate for the same result. maybe i just need a good enough excuse to buy these heads. Hopefully this vacuum advance will dial down a bit more thanks for the help so far kz.