Engine 88 mustang gt, random stalling?

I'll probably get flamed for this but whatever. So I have a 88gt, mind you this car runs fine. But I have this issuse that just started. Sometimes the car will stall but I'll be able to get it back up and running and it'll run fine. There's no other way to explain this. Sometimes when I'm leaving my apt. It will stall in first and I'll have to start it back up again. It will start and run fine. Like it kind of sputters out then it dies. Then I start it back up again and it runs flawless. There was one day however I couldn't get it back started for awhile. It just cranked and cranked and cranked until I decided to leave it. This happened at idle. Then I come back later and it starts right and I'm able to drive it. There was also one day where I shifted to second and it literally stalled mid drive and then came back on. I hear the fuel pump prime so I'm thinking it's not the fuel pump. Maybe a bad regulator? Or could it be a clogged fuel filter? Or maybe the dreaded TFI module? Any input would be nice. My check engine let is also on so I'm going the check for codes as soon as I get and obd1 scanner
 
And... just in case you need to know how to dump codes-

And-the surging idle checklist,though long and a bit overwhelming-is chocked full of extremely useful diagnostics for sorting out pretty much any running issue
https://www.stangnet.com/mustang-forums/threads/help-me-create-the-surging-idle-checklist.698148/
 
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Any codes? Any modifications?
Get a little more info outta ya, and I’ll (as well as the rest of the community) will try and help ya..
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It has a
Comp cam
30lbs injectors
Any codes? Any modifications?
Get a little more info outta ya, and I’ll (as well as the rest of the community) will try and help ya..
Welcome to Stangnet
-Comp cam
-75mm throttle body
-306 GT40 heads
-GT40 lower intake
-Cold air intake
-MSD Ignition
-4:10 Gears
-Aeromotive 340 fuel pump
-Lifters and pushrods
-BBK longtubes
-X-pipe to flowmaster mufflers
-King Cobra clutch
-tubular rear suspension
-subframe connecters
 

I will buy but I have to witch parts store has one the one I went didn't have one. And yes it has a mass air flow I'm guessing it was converted.
 
I will buy but I have to witch parts store has one the one I went didn't have one. And yes it has a mass air flow I'm guessing it was converted.

No idea. I haven't bought anything in a store in years.

You really want to find out of the car is converted or an original 1988 mass air car. Given that the check engine light works, I think it's original unless someone wired it in. Reason I ask is because converting to Mass air incorrectly can cause some of your issues, for example is the Vehicle Speed Sensor isn't wired in, the car tends to stall when coming from a stop.

But given that you have a check engine light, I don't think this is the case. Reread post #3. If you want to do this quick you can just use a paper clip and count the check engine light blinks. Perfectly fine way to do it if you can't get a code reader ASAP.
 
Pull codes first and see what shows up.
The non oem electronics in the MSD could cause signal issues or aftermarket tfi.
I've had problems in the past with aftermarket distributors, good thing is you can run an
aftermarket housing and replace the guts with Motorcraft parts.
But let's not jump to conclusions start by pulling codes and post what you get, there are a lot
of members on here that know their stuff.
 
Well I went to pull for codes today and I got nothing. It just said 000 the whole time. Did I not doit right or does this mean there's no codes?
 
So I went back outside and did it right this time it's throwing just one code and it's code 31,c for egr valve
 
I'm sure jrichker on this site will chime in, seems to be the authority on resolving trouble codes.
I believe code 10 is just a separation code, not an issue.
31= EVP below voltage
85= purge solenoid

If you use the search function on this site for those codes I'm sure you'll get plenty of info.
 
Did you get the engine running codes or just the stored in memory codes?

CODE: 31 (KOEO) - EVP circuit below minimum voltage. Vref (5 volt reference voltage supplied by the computer) missing or broken wire or bad connection in circuit.
Revised 06-Aug-2016 to add clarification of the 10 pin connector possible problems
Use a DVM to check for 5 volts on the orange/white wire. If it is missing, look for +5 volts at the orange/white wire on the TPS or MAP sensor located on the firewall near the center of the car. Use the black/white wire for the ground for the DVM.
With the sensor removed from the EGR and still connected, press the plunger and watch the voltage change on the brown/lt green wire. Pull the passenger side kick panel and measure the voltage at the computer. You will need to remove the plastic cover over the wires and probe them from the backside. A safety pin may prove very useful for this task. Use pin 27, EVR input (brown/lt green wire) and pin 46, signal ground (black/white wire) to measure the voltage. The orange/white wire is Vref and should always be 5 volts -/+ .25 volt. Be sure to measure Vref at the EGR sensor to rule out any broken wires or bad connections.
Measuring the voltage at the computer helps you spot broken wiring and intermittent connections. The 10 pin connectors are especially prone to connection problems, If the voltage checks at the EGR sensor are good but not at the computer, the 10 pin connector is suspect.
See the graphic for the 10 pin connector circuit layout.







Code 85 CANP solenoid - The Carbon Canister solenoid is inoperative or missing.

Revised 11 –Jan_2015 to add warning about vacuum leaks due to deteriorated hose or missing caps on vacuum lines when the solenoid is removed.

Check vacuum lines for leaks and cracks. Check electrical wiring for loose connections, damaged wiring and insulation. Check solenoid valve operation by grounding the gray/yellow wire to the solenoid and blowing through it.
The computer provides the ground for the solenoid. The red wire to the solenoid is always energized any time the ignition switch is in the run position.

If you disconnected the carbon canister and failed to properly cap the vacuum line coming from under the upper intake manifold, you will have problems. You will also have problems if the remaining hose coming from under the upper intake manifold or caps for the vacuum line are sucking air.

Charcoal canister plumbing - one 3/8" tube from the bottom of the upper manifold to the rubber hose. Rubber hose connects to one side of the canister solenoid valve. Other side of the solenoid valve connects to one side of the canister. The other side of the canister connects to a rubber hose that connects to a line that goes all the way back to the gas tank. There is an electrical connector coming from the passenger side injector harness near #1 injector that plugs into the canister solenoid valve. It's purpose is to vent the gas tank. The solenoid valve opens at cruse to provide some extra fuel. The canister is normally mounted on the passenger side frame rail near the smog pump pulley.

Connecting the gas tank vent line directly to the intake manifold will result in fuel vapor being constantly sucked into the intake manifold. There is unmetered fuel that the computer cannot adjust for. The result is poor idle and poor fuel economy.



It does not weigh but a pound or so and helps richen up the cruse mixture. It draws no HP & keeps the car from smelling like gasoline in a closed garage. So with all these good things and no bad ones, why not hook it up & use it?


The purge valve solenoid connector is a dangling wire that is near the ECT sensor and oil filler on the passenger side rocker cover. The actual solenoid valve is down next to the carbon canister. There is about 12"-16" of wire that runs parallel to the canister vent hose that comes off the bottom side of the upper intake manifold. That hose connects one port of the solenoid valve; the other port connects to the carbon canister.

The purge valve solenoid should be available at your local auto parts store.

Purge valve solenoid:



The carbon canister is normally mounted on the passenger side frame rail near the smog pump pulley.
Carbon Canister:
 
Sorry for late reply didn't get your message. But no I didn't check engine running codes. I did KOEO only.
 
If you are talking about the charcoal canister purge valve that is located on the right frame rail, there is a vacuum line from the upper manifold and it gathers up a pair of wires around the heater hose area and together the travel down to the valve then to the canister. If you car is a 94-5 it is located behind the right shock tower and the canister is in the fender well behind the splash shield.