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85_SS_302_Coupe

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toxzzic1 said:
I am hoping to get it into the mid 10's eventually. I am hoping to find a build that I can copy to get me to where I want to be. Normally I would experiment but work schedule does not allow. So I will have to take the easy and copy someone else s build. It almost sounds like cheating.
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Eh, you can't build a combo that hasn't been done before by somebody somewhere.
 

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I am currently running a powerdyne but am looking for a Vortech setup. I spoke to a member that sells the kits on here and my cost will be about $600 for everything.
 

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you are correct on the combo. However I enjoy sitting down and doing the research on each part. Making sure everything works together properly to produce the greatest amount of hp and torque in the desired RPM range.
 

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toxzzic1 said:
Even with fully forged internals? I was just thinking about a 50 shot?
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With spray + nitrous it is likely that you will be getting into block splitting territory unless you have a spot on tune and keep the RPMs under control.
 

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I think that I am going with a water/meth setup instead of the nitrous.
 

85_SS_302_Coupe

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toxzzic1 said:
I think that I am going with a water/meth setup instead of the nitrous.
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Meth injection is badass. It's cool because when you run low, you can stop at Walmart or a gas station and pick up some windshield washer fluid and refill your jug. On top of that you can get it for $3.
 

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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Eh, you can't build a combo that hasn't been done before by somebody somewhere.
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That's part of the beauty of modifying these cars. You already know what works and what doesn't.
 

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I wondered where you actually got the water/meth mix to refill. So you actually use windshield washer fluid???
 

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if you go meth injection get a Snow Performance kit. They are amazing! works ok with n/a cars but really designed to work with bosted cars..it makes the octane over 110..
 

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Here is the kit that was recommended to me. Stage 2 boost cooler kit... $410.00 shipped. Add a safeinjection system for $158... What is recommended to refill the water/meth kit? Is it actually windshield washer fluid?
 

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You can use Snow's Boost Juice, 4 gals cost about $30 or you can use certain washer fluids
 

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What is the difference between boos juice and washer fluid?
 

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Of the two heads AFR and TFS which would you recommend? I do not know what compression ratio the pistons are. All I know is that they are Probe forged. I guess I will have to pull the heads to determine this before choosing heads wouldn't I? Also what are the specs of the cam you recommended? I will look everything else over and try to have an order ready the first of the week. I am swapping the supercharger from the Powerdyne the is making 6lbs of boost to a Vortech V-S trim and will be making 12lbs of boost. Is the Snow Performance Stage 2 Boost Cooler Kit a complete water/meth kit?
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Matt
 

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I would go with the AFR heads, Ive had TFS before and when I sold my car my buddy swapped them out for AFR's and the car made more power and just felt more responsive. I wouldnt get rid of the welds, I think it works well with the paint scheme. You may find with a different set of rims the car wont look so good...IMO Its a unique paint so be careful.
 

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Matt, did you get a build sheet that lists what pistons they are? I listed both just incase they were a FPS sereis and not the SRS so the inline valve 2.02" AFR will not clear...then the TFS heads are a clear choice.

Ive made similar power between the 2 heads, you can not compare the basic TFS 170cc heads to the 190cc I quoted, 2 different animals..they make and support big power. You cant compare a AFR 185 to the TFS TW 170cc either.
I personally am a AFR fan and the RHS stuff has really been impressed...cam profile depends on the combo Ill pick different lobes. Maybe something in the .550-.570 range 224-236 duration on a 112 or so, I have a few profles in mind

Snow kit is complete everything you need to install...Safe Injection is extra, same goes for for Boost Juice (I personally prefer the boost juice)

Boost Juice™

Boost Juice™ is Snow Performance’s proprietary mix of 49% methanol and 51% water. It is made in a controlled environment with special care to make sure the ratios are accurate to result in a high performance water-methanol fluid formulated for use in the Boost Cooler™ injection system. Boost Juice is required as the exclusive fluid for lifetime warranty.



You can give me a call if you want to talk things over 717-343-2108
 

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I will email the guy that I bought the car from to see if he knows which pistons were used.
 

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I am assuming since the car is boosted that it will have flat top pistons. I hate not knowing what exactly is in the block. I also hate to pull the heads to look but if I have to I will. I am also a AFR fan. I have not used any RHS stuff. I sent the previous owner an email about the pistons so hopefully he will get back to me soon. I am used to putting my own engine together and have a hard time trusting people when they can only tell you what is in it. It would be very easy to lie to someone just to sell a car. But I fell in love with it and had to have it anyway. If I cannot find out I may just get a new short block and build it. At least I would know exactly what I have. I have looked at strokers and have heard that the 331 is more reliable than the 347. Have you ever heard this?
 
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