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92 Fox Notch Build: Stock, Light And Sticky..what Next..

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EZE183

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Yes I'm still using my egr with offroad H pipe and no smog pump. I was thinking of aerodynamics.. maybe play around with a custom plastic "skid plate" for now that covers from bumper to tranny..that would be cheap. Never thought of my alignment I do have caster camber and adjustable control arms. I'm fully synthetic except for tranny..gotta do that.

I wanna order a tune, there is so many out there, but I want to be sure I'm keeping my stock throttle body and MAF before I do that..
 

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I don't know what fuel you are running, but run the lowest octane fuel that you can get away with. And if there is a station near you that sells non-ethanol gas then use that. It is worth a few mpg, but does cost a bit more per gallon. You can look up www.trufuel50.com or www.pure-gas.org for a list of places that sell the non-ethanol gasoline.
 
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Ever since I advance the timing I been using 93 . I never tried low octane..I figured it would ping.
 

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ROFL...If pullies and an electric fan are worth 20 RWHP I will eat one of each for dinner. Maybe if the old fan was stuck in the shroud and the fan clutch was always engaged.
 
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MFE92 said:
ROFL...If pullies and an electric fan are worth 20 RWHP I will eat one of each for dinner. Maybe if the old fan was stuck in the shroud and the fan clutch was always engaged.
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MAYBE 10-15 hp at the crank, but I run both.
 

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Bullitt347 said:
I don't know what fuel you are running, but run the lowest octane fuel that you can get away with. And if there is a station near you that sells non-ethanol gas then use that. It is worth a few mpg, but does cost a bit more per gallon. You can look up www.trufuel50.com or www.pure-gas.org for a list of places that sell the non-ethanol gasoline.
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But aren't you looking for 30mpg to reduced fuel cost? So increasing fuel cost is counter active.
 

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Depends on how much the added cost per gallon is over the increase in MPG. It may offset the added cost. I run non-ethanol fuel in both of my Mustangs even tho the added cost per gallon in a net negative. The car just runs so much better with the non-ethanol fuel compared to the stuff you get at any gas station. Throttle response, power and overall driveability are so much better that I am willing to pay the difference, even tho it is costing me more. The cost of the non-ethanol fuel in his area may not be as prohibitive as it is where I live. It is an option to consider.

Edit: as a point of reference on both of my Mustangs (01' V-6 5 speed and 08' Bullitt edition) the increase in MPG with the non-ethanol fuel was about 2-3 mpg. In my area unfortunately, the non-ethanol fuel cost about .20 cents per gallon more. So running it is actually costing me more than just the Super Unleaded I could get a Chevron or elsewhere once MPG is factored vs $ per gallon.
 
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I gained 1 to 1.5 mpg when I swapped out the factory heads for TF Twisted Wedge 170cc heads many moons ago (cobra intake and 24# injectors at the same time, along with the different tube in the pre-existing C&L MA). Surprised me at the time, but the difference was definitely there. With 3.73 gears, you're getting exceptional highway mileage, though the 60 mph is helping versus the 75-80 most of us do....
 
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I gained 1 to 1.5 mpg when I swapped out the factory heads for TF Twisted Wedge 170cc heads many moons ago (cobra intake and 24# injectors at the same time, along with the different tube in the pre-existing C&L MA). Surprised me at the time, but the difference was definitely there. With 3.73 gears, you're getting exceptional highway mileage, though the 60 mph is helping versus the 75-80 most of us do....
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That's interesting, I've seen that mentioned on other forums. What size MAF and TB where you using? Did you have a tune? I like that the heads drop a good bit of weight also.
 

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Before I made any upgrade, not a single one before my first ones, which were pulleys and fan. And because of that moment when i was like "Oh sh!t, that really did free up some hp's!!" when i punched it ....that's how i know because i had not done ANYTHING to the car, ....it works, it happened and I will always stand by that day, cause i drove the car for 6 years before that day. How many truly but i sure as hell would recommend that to anyone wanting to say "Oh sh!t" on there first easy upgrade
 

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This is the most ridiculous thread that I have read on here in a while..... I'm OUT!
 
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Grabbin' Asphalt said:
Before I made any upgrade, not a single one before my first ones, which were pulleys and fan. And because of that moment when i was like "Oh sh!t, that really did free up some hp's!!" when i punched it ....that's how i know because i had not done ANYTHING to the car, ....it works, it happened and I will always stand by that day, cause i drove the car for 6 years before that day. How many truly but i sure as hell would recommend that to anyone wanting to say "Oh sh!t" on there first easy upgrade
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias



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Bullitt347

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This is the most ridiculous thread that I have read on here in a while..... I'm OUT!
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We are here to entertain you........no?
 
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84Ttop

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We are here to entertain you........no?
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I will admit that I have gotten a few chuckles out of several threads around here lately, lmao
 

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MFE92 said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias



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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wikitruth&defid=1914147
 

Bullitt347

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Don't confuse me with facts.........my mind is made up!
 

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/c/confirmation_bias.htm
http://www.riskythinking.com/articles/risk-of-confirmation-bias
https://notes.utk.edu/Bio/greenberg.nsf/0/7803a6500b6a93b185256e3d000c63a3?OpenDocument
https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Confirmation_bias.html
http://explorable.com/confirmation-bias
http://www.skepdic.com/confirmbias.html
http://atheism.about.com/od/logicalflawsinreasoning/a/confirmation.htm
http://io9.com/5974468/the-most-common-cognitive-biases-that-prevent-you-from-being-rational
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/confirmation-bias
http://oldprof.typepad.com/a_dash_of_insight/2014/03/missing-indicators-and-confirmation-bias.html
http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/...Pilot/License-to-Learn-Confirmation-bias.aspx
http://www.michaelshermer.com/tag/confirmation-bias/
http://www.citelighter.com/science/psychology/knowledgecards/confirmation-bias
 

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84Ttop said:
I will admit that I have gotten a few chuckles out of several threads around here lately, lmao
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You're like the "Godfather"...I was out...and they pulled me back in! Lol. Agreed there have been some "interesting" posts lately.
 

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need the stock gears to hypermile like this. my 2.73s give me 27.5-28 on the highway and im all stock except for exhaust, 76mm mass air and k&n.
 

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Grabbin' Asphalt said:
Before I made any upgrade, not a single one before my first ones, which were pulleys and fan. And because of that moment when i was like "Oh sh!t, that really did free up some hp's!!" when i punched it ....that's how i know because i had not done ANYTHING to the car, ....it works, it happened and I will always stand by that day, cause i drove the car for 6 years before that day. How many truly but i sure as hell would recommend that to anyone wanting to say "Oh sh!t" on there first easy upgrade
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So your "20rwhp" literally IS a complete SOTP guess?

I just had to scroll back up to make sure this wasn't a honda forum
 
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