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93 Cobra rims on a 92 GT

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Will a set of OEM 1993 Cobra rims (not R) fit on my wife's 1992 GT vert? Right now it has the 16x7" Ponies, and I if I'm not mistaken the 93 Cobras are 17x7.5...
 

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yes. They came stock on a 93 why wouldn't they work on your 92? What size tire?
 

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mikestang63 said:
yes. They came stock on a 93 why wouldn't they work on your 92? What size tire?
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I wouldn't go any bigger than the factory tire size on the Cobras.

I remember back in the day people swapping out inner fender wells and rack limiters going to the 17" rim, I just cannot remember the specifics.
 

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mikestang63 said:
yes. They came stock on a 93 why wouldn't they work on your 92? What size tire?
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No offense, but if you don't know the right answer, you should be careful about assuming that they will bolt right up.

Information from here...
http://www.1993cobra.com/data.htm


The Differential was same as other production 5.0L except for the rear wheel disc brakes sourced from the Thunderbird Turbo coupes in the late 80's.
The front brakes were near identical to the regular 5.0L except for the front rotors which carried part number F3ZZ-1102-A. The rotor "hat" or the area where the wheel sat on the hub was 3/4" thicker if laid side by side to a regular 5.0 rotor. The wheels had a different offset because of the wider rear differential so this is how Ford solved the problem.

Rear brakes were the same as the ones used on the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. Axles were 3/4 longer on each side and required special offset wheels. Axle part numbers are F3ZZ-4234-A. Rotors in the rear measured 10.07" in diameter and were 0.945" thick. Part number is F3ZZ-2C026-A. Calipers in the rear were manufactured by Varga for Ford and were a single piston design. Part number is F3ZZ-2552-A (RH) and F3ZZ-2553-A (LH). Parking brake cables were changed for 1993 and the 93 Cobra also had specific parking brake cables for the rear disc. Part number is F3ZZ-2A635-A for both left and right sides.
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I am not sure the implications of not changing the front rotors, except that you will possibly run into an issue with them clearing the brake caliper, or have excessive rubbing from them being too far inboard. On the rear, they may bolt up but will probably look odd.

Now, the replica Cobra wheels are different, as they are built for standard GT/LX offsets, so in that case they will bolt up properly.
 

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91TwighlightGT said:
No offense, but if you don't know the right answer, you should be careful about assuming that they will bolt right up.

Information from here...
http://www.1993cobra.com/data.htm




I am not sure the implications of not changing the front rotors, except that you will possibly run into an issue with them clearing the brake caliper, or have excessive rubbing from them being too far inboard. On the rear, they may bolt up but will probably look odd.

Now, the replica Cobra wheels are different, as they are built for standard GT/LX offsets, so in that case they will bolt up properly.
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Wrong. I know a few people that put those rims on earlier fox body's with no issues. He can either buy spacers or cobra rotors to solve the problem.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/wheels-tires/1227236-1993-cobra-wheels-mustang.html

http://forums.corral.net/forums/wheels-tires/1111057-1993-original-cobra-wheels-fox.html

Now it would be easier to buy aftermarket Cobra rims with the correct offset, but that was not his question.
 

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Wrong. I know a few people that put those rims on earlier fox body's with no issues. He can either buy spacers or cobra rotors to solve the problem.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/wheels-tires/1227236-1993-cobra-wheels-mustang.html

http://forums.corral.net/forums/wheels-tires/1111057-1993-original-cobra-wheels-fox.html

Now it would be easier to buy aftermarket Cobra rims with the correct offset, but that was not his question.
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In the threads you posted they pointed to the same issues that I told him. You told him they would just bolt right up as if they were stock wheels. I specifically said it could be done and provided tech on some of the issues that had to be overcome.

Your response leads one to believe that these wheels just bolt on and look good without having to do anything, which is just untrue, and I corrected the record. Yes, they will bolt on. Yes, they will look like trash. Yes, I think the OP probably would like to know that he will need wheel spacers, or different rotor hats, or the 93 Cobra/88 Turbo coupe rear axles to make it work.

From the first link YOU provided...
Simply bolting on the '93 Cobra wheels to a '93 and older Mustang will result in very bad rubbing on the A-arms on tight turns and possibly rubbing on the rear inner wheel wells. Not to mention it looks really lame with the wheels sucked way in.
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But it, just bolt them on they fit fine.
 

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Oh how I've missed StangNet.

Thank you for the tech. I prefer factory over after market, but with this swap its going to need some modifications. I'll probably go aftermarket wheels.
 

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mikestang63 said:
Wrong. I know a few people that put those rims on earlier fox body's with no issues. He can either buy spacers or cobra rotors to solve the problem.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/wheels-tires/1227236-1993-cobra-wheels-mustang.html

http://forums.corral.net/forums/wheels-tires/1111057-1993-original-cobra-wheels-fox.html

Now it would be easier to buy aftermarket Cobra rims with the correct offset, but that was not his question.
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With all due respect, your original post alludes that they would be simply bolt and go. You didn't not mention the issues with spacers or needing to change brake parts in order to make them properly fit.
 

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Red said:
Oh how I've missed StangNet.

Thank you for the tech. I prefer factory over after market, but with this swap its going to need some modifications. I'll probably go aftermarket wheels.
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You can purchase 1993 cobra front rotors from auto parts store. They are a direct swap for your current rotors. It's about $50/rotor

Out back, if you so choose, a 3/4" spacer would be all that's needed.

If they are real Ford 1993 cobra wheels, they will hold their value very well compared to aftermarket cobra wheels
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
You can purchase 1993 cobra front rotors from auto parts store. They are a direct swap for your current rotors. It's about $50/rotor

Out back, if you so choose, a 3/4" spacer would be all that's needed.

If they are real Ford 1993 cobra wheels, they will hold their value very well compared to aftermarket cobra wheels
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VERY good to know! I hit up the local shop tomorrow. Thanks!
 

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Out back, if you so choose, a 3/4" spacer would be all that's needed.
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In one of the threads posted above someone mentions changing the wheel studs to work with the spacer. I would think that the engagement on the threads without the longer studs would be problematic. Any idea?
 

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In one of the threads posted above someone mentions changing the wheel studs to work with the spacer. I would think that the engagement on the threads without the longer studs would be problematic. Any idea?
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I'm not a wheel spacer fan myself. But if i were to run them, i would upgrade the lugs and run bolt on spacers vs pass-thru spacers



Downside is cost. These are expensive. Pass through spacers are inherently weaker because they use the same, but longer studs and move the largest area of stress further from the hub creating a greater chance of snapping a wheel lug off.

Some guys have no issues with spacers though.
 

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Sounds complicated! Wouldn't it be simpler to just run '93 Cobra replica's? They are cheap, nice quality wheels. I've had them on my '88 for Years. They bolt right up and are 8.5" vs the real '93 Cobra7.5". For me that meant room for more tire. 245/45's and 275/40's.

Yes they are on "bass ackwards" LOL
 
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I've ran regular 93 cobras on my reef for a day they looked like ass without the proper stuff needed for the offset , just gett the replicas and call it a day there is nothing wrong with the quality and you wouldn't be able to tell a difference
 

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The reps are track worthy too! LOL
 
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