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A little help before I start my 4-to-8

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Depending on your intentions, remember that anywhere a 302 will fit, a 351w will fit. If you really want to keep up with the new cars, I'd go with a 408w. If you just want a cool cruiser a the 302 would be cheaper to feed.

408W w/ good heads. Don't go cheap on the heads, get the best you can afford!
TKO or T5X manual or 4R70W auto w/ stand-alone controller
8.8 Rear w/ 5 lug conversion from a SN95 front and back
Complete Holley Sniper FI kit w/ distributor and ignition
Do a tubular K-Member and full suspension refresh front and rear while you're in there.
Sub-frame connectors and torque box reenforcements are a MUST on a 'vert
 
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Started getting the car apart this weekend, seems like a lot of work but I think I ready for it.

I have no engine building experience and I don't have a 302 to modify, where's the best place to find an engine/transmission for a reasonable price?
 
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Sirwa said:
Started getting the car apart this weekend, seems like a lot of work but I think I ready for it.

I have no engine building experience and I don't have a 302 to modify, where's the best place to find an engine/transmission for a reasonable price?
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First,have you decided which route you want to go?
 
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Thinking a Dart Sportsman block?
that or a 351w
 

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A 351 would be fun too. Watch your deck height.
 
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Sirwa said:
Thinking a Dart Sportsman block?
that or a 351w
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I thought this was a fun cruiser.
 

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Monkeybutt2000 said:
I thought this was a fun cruiser.
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You can get that from either of those

I would target my compression to be between the stock 9.1:1 ratio (on an 86 anyway) all the way to the high 9s.

Either a cast or forged crank will work in this territory with no issues (although I would say a DART blick with a cast crank is nearly sacrilege) but for the 351? No problem.

Some fat heads, and 75+mm TB (I vote for high quality 80mm).

Intake Hmmmm..... I think what I would do in this situation is fill out a cam sheet and kick it into Ed's court from here: https://www.flowtechinduction.com/cam-tech-form/


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There are a couple of intakes that come to mind but there might be one he likes above some others. Make sure the intake accepts an 80mm.

I don't know what state you live in but I'd do my best [not] install the smog pump and associated hardware. Keep the EGR and PCV systems (if possible depending on heads). 3Way cats are better anyhow

I'd throw T5 and a good set of long tubes behind it and drive it down the road.


It's already prepped for boost on a later date in a galaxy far, far away.

Build the fuel system so that you only have to do it once. Keep hood clearance issues in mind with the 351. 6 inch cowls on the street are lame.

Suspension is next: Replace everything keeping it as stock as possible except for the LCAs. I put new OEM-style shocks and quad shocks all the way around. Urethane suspension bushings in everything except the 1995 steel Upper control arms. Leave the rubber bushing installed. Rebuild the Trac-Lok with the extra used clutch (ask about this if you don't understand).

Brakes:

Upgrade them. Pic the wheels you like first then improve the brakes to accommodate them. Just a [little] improvement in this area is [huge] on a Fox.
 
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I agree with NOOBZ on everything except the T5.... My 408w eats T5's! - Maybe I shouldn't abuse them as much or possibly I just can't drive
 

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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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mrspeed said:
I agree with NOOBZ on everything except the T5.... My 408w eats T5's! - Maybe I shouldn't abuse them as much or possibly I just can't drive
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you have prolly exceeded the hp/trq capacity of the T5.
Or you can't drive
 
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