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Mustanggt108

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Accufab 70mm TB+Plenum Installation UPDATE

I just finished installing it
no problems with instal. took me about an hour and half (I was working in the dark kind of ).
anyways , i cranked the car up.Everything seems normal.My RPM is around 1000 , so thats higher then normal.I know this is normal right after instal,right??.I didnt mess up my TPS . anyways i kept the car runing for 10 minutes i will go check the RPM's now.I didnt take it for a spin yet....when i come back from work i will do that along with posting some pics
thx to all the people who made my instal real easy
 
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okay guys. i just took the car for a spin.My job can go to hell , i was too excited to know how my car was doing
anyways.No idle problems what so ever.I didnt really feel any gains.People say that the car should pull hard after 3k
maybe i'm just too tired to notice.or is it because i just Now installed it , and maybe i should give it a couple of days ?
 
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oh yah.How can i make sure my instal was 100% perfect ?
 

Dark Knight GT

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If the car starts up normal without any misfires, pings, sputtering or SES light, then I would say the install went fine. You can double check your intake connections with some carb and choke cleaner. Just spray it around the intake and associated parts, then listen for a change in the idle. It's not that difficult.
 
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the thing that made me think i didnt do it right was because before the instal . When i shift hard from 3rd to 4th in a race , the car will jerk from the power.But now with the TB+Plenum when shifting from 3rd to 4th , it doesnt jerk anymore.As if the car lost some HP instead of gaining.I double checked all hoses and connections. Everything fine with the instal.
anyways here are some pics
 
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the thing that made me think i didnt do it right was because before the instal . When i shift hard from 3rd to 4th in a race , the car will jerk from the power.But now with the TB+Plenum when shifting from 3rd to 4th , it doesnt jerk anymore.As if the car lost some HP instead of gaining.I double checked all hoses and connections. Everything fine with the instal.
anyways here are some pics
 
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the thing that made me think i didnt do it right was because before the instal . When i shift hard from 3rd to 4th in a race , the car will jerk from the power.But now with the TB+Plenum when shifting from 3rd to 4th , it doesnt jerk anymore.As if the car lost some HP instead of gaining.I double checked all hoses and connections. Everything fine with the instal.
anyways here are some pics
 

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merc123

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Now you just need to clean the rest of it
 

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You won't feel 2-4 rwhp gains. If you do, it's in your head.
 

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propellerhead said:
You won't feel 2-4 rwhp gains. If you do, it's in your head.
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I'm not saying that all vehicles respond the same when I say this, but he should have gained more than any 4rwhp with the addition of a Accufab 70mm throttle body and matching plenum. 4rwhp across the entire power band, with peaks of 7-8rwhp is the bare minimum I would expect to see over the stock throttle body and plenum setup on a car that is relatively stock. If he has any other mods, it should only make the power gains even better. I've heard of peak gains of greater than 11rwhp and 7+rwhp across the power band on GT's with just bolt-ons, like cold air kits and exhaust mods.
 

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Dark Knight GT said:
I'm not saying that all vehicles respond the same when I say this, but he should have gained more than any 4rwhp with the addition of a Accufab 70mm throttle body and matching plenum. 4rwhp across the entire power band, with peaks of 7-8rwhp is the bare minimum I would expect to see over the stock throttle body and plenum setup on a car that is relatively stock. If he has any other mods, it should only make the power gains even better. I've heard of peak gains of greater than 11rwhp and 7+rwhp across the power band on GT's with just bolt-ons, like cold air kits and exhaust mods.
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yup , your correct.He should see around 7-9rwhp atlease.Check your connections and go over everything again.And i know why your engine is not so clean
all them desert storms over there must really suck
 
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6.31 RWHP & 6.88 RWTQ gain with BBK Long Tube Headers, BBK X Pipe, Magnaflow Catback, Steeda Pullies, and a 75mm TB, not a 70. However, the difference would be very little from 70 to 75 (maybe 1hp?)



http://www.modulardepot.com/?show=articlesdet&aid=38
 

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cougar694u said:
6.31 RWHP & 6.88 RWTQ gain with BBK Long Tube Headers, BBK X Pipe, Magnaflow Catback, Steeda Pullies, and a 75mm TB, not a 70. However, the difference would be very little from 70 to 75 (maybe 1hp?)



http://www.modulardepot.com/?show=articlesdet&aid=38
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Yeah less power going to the 75mm tb as long as it is n/a
 

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Since we're quoting Modular Depot, I'll join in. I was thinking an Accufab TB/Plenum combo would be an easy 6-8 hp based on the tests they have posted on Modular Depot...

70mm: http://www.modulardepot.com/?show=articlesdet&aid=30
75 mm: http://www.modulardepot.com/?show=articlesdet&aid=38

... untll a buddy brought this to my attention. It's one of the last posts in the thread following the article.

SCT Guy said:
While I think you gathered all the right data, I think it was intrepted wrong. I think rather than posting the best HP and TQ for each one, you should have posted the average. I took the liberty of doing that here....

Here is the average of the three runs for each elbow.

Stock 265.52 302.04
Acuufab 271.88 308.22
C&L 270.89 305.86
Dragon 270.05 306.55
TrickFlow 269.51 304.27

Now, I then took the liberty of applying a simple density correction based on the temp of the elbow that you measured. Basically each degree change in temp is a .12% change in density. HP is directly proportional to density, so this is a pretty legit correction to make.

As a summary the Accufab and Dragon were run the coldest, 72F and stock was the hottest, 76F. this correction makes the assumption that the average temp of the motor is a better reflection of the temp going into it, rather than ACT temp....

Stock 267.43 304.21
Accufab 271.88 308.82
C&L 271.22 306.23
Dragon 270.05 306.55
TrickFlow 270.48 305.37

Now, if you notice after this correction, the stock number is very, very close to when Matt re-ran the stock piece, 267.44. So, since these two seem to agree, I would probably not apply any more correction factors. I actually worked more of them up based on viscosity difference from the difference in temp and what not, but the numbers don't change too much more since the drag torque change from a 10 degree oil temp change is about .11%.

The bottom line, the way I see it, there is about 4 RWHP to be gained with one of these pieces and probably about 2 RWTQ. I realize that the accufab part made more torque but the average is skewed by one of the three runs, where it was different by quite a bit. On this particular run, the A/F ratio was at least a half point difference than the other runs. If you threw this out, their RWTQ average would be 307.12 RWTQ. This supports about 2-3 max RWTQ increase.

Bottom line, 4 RHWP and 2.5 RWTQ. Probably not worth the money spent. If you have a higher powered engine, you would probably see more gain. If you have a lower powered engine, you would see less gain....

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Heresy!!! This is the wildly quoted article that proves you get a good hp gain for $400.


j/k I bought in on the lie. I had the Accufab plenum/tb and didn't feel *****. Even if it was 10hp I don't think that's enough to move my butt dyno
 
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[QUOTE='03GTinFLA]Heresy!!! This is the wildly quoted article that proves you get a good hp gain for $400.


j/k I bought in on the lie. I had the Accufab plenum/tb and didn't feel *****. Even if it was 10hp I don't think that's enough to move my butt dyno [/QUOTE]
to be honest: I didnt feel any gains what so ever. where is my $399 lol
and the two alan screws that came with the TPS after i tightened them in , one screw got stripped. and cant get it out anymore if in the future i ever needed to.how will I get it out
 

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get gears...
 

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the plenum and throttle body only are noticible after u pair it with a good set of heads, cams and a blower..and possibly a full exhaust...you cant say "this part is **** y did i spend 400 dollars on it" because it IS worth it, if youre planning on further modifying the vehicle...every part works together..not individually
 

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-=NightHawk=- said:
the plenum and throttle body only are noticible after u pair it with a good set of heads, cams and a blower..and possibly a full exhaust...you cant say "this part is **** y did i spend 400 dollars on it" because it IS worth it, if youre planning on further modifying the vehicle...every part works together..not individually
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except for gears
 

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ponysarepretty said:
except for gears
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true...however gears only make u FEEL as tho u have more power..they dont add anything but a mere 3 tenths IF that off of ur track time
 
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