Adding a s/c

Cobain03 · Jan 7, 2007

can a supercharger be added to a stock gt and run fine (after a tune of course)? or do you have to upgrade internals?

DBMSTNG · Jan 7, 2007

after 400rwhp, you should get forged internals. under 400rwhp, you'll be fine with a good tune.

the98stang · Jan 7, 2007

many people have closer to 450WHP with no problems, but it's kind of hit and miss. Stick close to 400 and you'll be good.

Cobain03 · Jan 7, 2007

sorry for the questions and future questions, im a complete newbie when it comes to ohc and even fuel injection and im going to be purchasing a 01ish gt soon.

say i bought the cheapest s/c possible, could i make the same amount of horsepower by using the same amount of money on bolt ons?

what all is required when putting a s/c on a car?
edit: whats a safe setup for a daily driven car?

again, sorry for the newb questions. i figured i'd ask people who actually knew what they were talking about.

the98stang · Jan 7, 2007

Cobain03 said:
sorry for the questions and future questions, im a complete newbie when it comes to ohc and even fuel injection and im going to be purchasing a 01ish gt soon.

say i bought the cheapest s/c possible, could i make the same amount of horsepower by using the same amount of money on bolt ons?

what all is required when putting a s/c on a car?
edit: whats a safe setup for a daily driven car?

again, sorry for the newb questions. i figured i'd ask people who actually knew what they were talking about.

Bolt ons are nothing compared to a SC. You will gain 100+WHP with the SC. That is very hard to do with bolt ons. The SC is as safe as you make it. Meaning, perfect air fuel ratio. The car will need to be dyno tuned. You will need suffient injectors, fuel pump, and MAF.

Cobain03 · Jan 7, 2007

so is this something that anyone can do in a weekend per say? can you recommend a good one thats easy to install and gain me some power?

04YELLOWGT · Jan 7, 2007

I would do a Vortech S or SQ Trim or a Novi 2000. Both make good power and are very good quality. Look at the Mongoose kit from MPH. I did that and many others here did it to. It comes with every thing you need.

We installed mine in about 8 hrs and thats with a 1/2-1 lunch break.

FalconGuy016 · Jan 7, 2007

Cobain03 said:
so is this something that anyone can do in a weekend per say? can you recommend a good one thats easy to install and gain me some power?

www.modularpowerhouse.com

"Mongoose kit" which includes the popular Vortech SQ or S I believe. The entire kit has everything you need to get your car running (injectors, fuel pump, even a basic tune). 800+ kits I believe without a lost engine.

Fast Eddie 41 · Jan 7, 2007

Cobain03 said:
so is this something that anyone can do in a weekend per say? can you recommend a good one thats easy to install and gain me some power?

Pro Charger and Vortech/Paxton both make some great blowers. I would recommend you call them both directly and tell them your goals. Then base your decision on the impression you receive from talking to both companies directly.

Gearbanger 101 · Jan 7, 2007

FalconGuy016 said:
www.modularpowerhouse.com

"Mongoose kit" which includes the popular Vortech SQ or S I believe. The entire kit has everything you need to get your car running (injectors, fuel pump, even a basic tune). 800+ kits I believe without a lost engine.

Agreed. The S-Trims and Novi's are nice blowers that will make all the power you'll ever need and won't kill your budget.

Saleen4971 · Jan 7, 2007

i would go with mongoose.

too bad mine wasnt a mongoose kit

jstu saw ur in lexington - my pal mike kasten lives in lexington!

Gearbanger 101 · Jan 7, 2007

Saleen4971 said:
i would go with mongoose.

too bad mine wasnt a mongoose kit

I wouldn't worry too much about it. You seem to be making almost as much horsepower as the Mongoose guys are regardless of who put your kit together. Bigger injectors would certainly help you from a power and safety stand point though.

Cobain03 · Jan 7, 2007

Saleen4971 said:
i would go with mongoose.

too bad mine wasnt a mongoose kit

jstu saw ur in lexington - my pal mike kasten lives in lexington!

off topic: but did he drive a cammed jeep Cherokee?

Saleen4971 · Jan 8, 2007

ohhhh he did and when he sold it, i drove him to the airport - im guesisng u knwo kasten huh? lol

Saleen4971 · Jan 8, 2007

Gearbanger 101 said:
I wouldn't worry too much about it. You seem to be making almost as much horsepower as the Mongoose guys are regardless of who put your kit together. Bigger injectors would certainly help you from a power and safety stand point though.

thats why i want a mongoose. if i had 42's and a bigger MAF (mongoose comes with 42's and a 90mm MAF right?) then i woudl be almsto at 400rwhp

sgarlic · Jan 8, 2007

I personally would prefer a twin screw or roots type blower if I decided to go the supercharged route. Not that I don't dig the Novi, Vortech, ProCharger, etc.. but I can't see constantly driving around on the street at 5k just to see all the boost I paid thousands of dollars for.

That Kenne Bell supercharger kit comes with everything you need except the 91 octane gas you have to start using. Check them out before you buy anything else. http://www.kennebell.net/

stang671 · Jan 10, 2007

sgarlic said:
I personally would prefer a twin screw or roots type blower if I decided to go the supercharged route. Not that I don't dig the Novi, Vortech, ProCharger, etc.. but I can't see constantly driving around on the street at 5k just to see all the boost I paid thousands of dollars for.

That Kenne Bell supercharger kit comes with everything you need except the 91 octane gas you have to start using. Check them out before you buy anything else. http://www.kennebell.net/

Do you have any idea what the average amount of boost you can run and still use 91 octane gas...i do know that it does matter with the tune....but i've been looking around for this answer and not to sure what it is...i'm plan on gettin the KB and having it installed on my 4.6 (rebuilt) and i'm trying to see what's the max I can get and still use 91....thanks for taking the time to read this....

BLK_ROUSH · Jan 10, 2007

FalconGuy016 said:
www.modularpowerhouse.com

"Mongoose kit" which includes the popular Vortech SQ or S I believe. The entire kit has everything you need to get your car running (injectors, fuel pump, even a basic tune). 800+ kits I believe without a lost engine.

+1 on the entry level kit with a safe tune.

Cobain03 said:
so is this something that anyone can do in a weekend per say? can you recommend a good one thats easy to install and gain me some power?

yes ...

invertmast · Jan 10, 2007

If your wanting a good cheap supercharger kit, the ford racing roots supercharger is pretty good. I made 422/402 rwhp on 6psi w/ a stock longblock, full exhaust, cams, and some other goodies.

I'm currently selling my frpp supercharger w/ install kit (no tuning software or fuel pump) for DIRT cheap.

Gearbanger 101 · Jan 10, 2007

invertmast said:
If your wanting a good cheap supercharger kit, the ford racing roots supercharger is pretty good. I made 422/402 rwhp on 6psi w/ a stock longblock, full exhaust, cams, and some other goodies.

I'm currently selling my frpp supercharger w/ install kit (no tuning software or fuel pump) for DIRT cheap.

I agree....the FRPP kit is a nice entry level unit. Uncomplicated manifold design, rock solid M112 blower, easy installation, low cost and will make all the power the stock bottom end will handle.......The only problem is, is that Ford doesn't promote nor stand buy this product in the slightest. Their promotional advertising is spotty, they don't sell the unit's as a complete kit and when people have attempted to research and inquire about this blower, or what's needed to adapt it to their vehicle they're rewarded with vague answers (at best) from the Ford Tech line. Most people I know have had to piece together their own units themselves and this is more than your average newbie who knows nothing about supercharging is willing to or capable of dealing with.

They want a "Plug and play" unit so to speak. And don't want or need the hassles and uncertainties when buying one.

Twin Screws and Roots blowers rock, but kind of take the "cost effectivness" out of the equasion when you consider you can get comparable performance out of a Centrifugal Supercharger for about 2/3 the price.

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