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Ajusting A/F ratio ?????

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95CobraMike

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how in the world do you adjust your air to fuel ratio? i recently got an a/f ratio gauge and i kid you not, it ALWAYS runs lean.... i have NEVER seen my gauge get into the ideal range, not even at WOT....
 
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Quick question for you is it a autometer gauge. If so those gauges suck thats just my 2 cents on it. I had one and it showed the same thing then we took it to get dyno tuned and it was rich. They do look cool and all but invest in a good wide band sensor its well worth the three hundred dollars
 

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Do a search, i have responded to these A/F gague threads a million times. They are nothing but a light show.
 

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Those gauges pull from the factory oxygen sensors, which apparently lose most of their accuracy above 2000rpm. Try pulling your oxygen sensors and making sure they are not fouled. Also, if you have a chip, make sure the person who burned it didn't turn the sensors off because you have an off-road midpipe.
 

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loud 95 said:
Those gauges pull from the factory oxygen sensors, which apparently lose most of their accuracy above 2000rpm. Try pulling your oxygen sensors and making sure they are not fouled. Also, if you have a chip, make sure the person who burned it didn't turn the sensors off because you have an off-road midpipe.
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Chips dont do that on 95s. We only have two O2 sensors that are pre catalytic converter so they dont need to be switched off, because they are used in closed loop to target a 14.64 A/F ratio. Its 96+ mustangs that have 4 O2 sensor the first two pre catalytic like ours to monitorl closed loop A/F and the other two after the cats to make sure the exhaust is getting cleaned properly, they will cause a CE light. So tuners shut them off, that is a non issue on our cars.
 

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WhiteDevil said:
Do a search, i have responded to these A/F gague threads a million times. They are nothing but a light show.
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I gotta say I'll second John's feelings on this stuff.

The only time you would be close to seeing accurate readings is when you are driving around town like your grandmother might drive

Very light throttle when accelerating and when just cruising around

For wot accurate af ratio verification, and any other kind of driving condition for that matter, you gotta have a wide band and you can get a pretty good one in the price range of about $250 to $350.

Later
Grady
 

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but i am saying i have NEVER seen the gauge go into the Ideal or Rich stage....EVER... even if i cruise like my grandma
i have only one o2 sensor the driver side is a plugged bung
 

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Mike

The grandma drive thing was kinda of a way for me to represent Closed Loop driving conditions if you did not catch it btw.

It however is a pretty good example for the time and conditions that gauge might be helpful.

You very well could be lean for most of the time but it just would be a guess at best.

Later
Grady
 

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i just wish i knew for sure....
how can i check for sure?

i just need to buy a PMS
 

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i just wish i knew for sure....
how can i check for sure?

i just need to buy a PMS
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WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB WB

PMS or not ...... you gotta have one to know for sure $$$ $$$

Later
Grady
 

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I guess the question is what constitutes lean. When you are driving like a grandma your car is targeting 14.64 A/F ratio. So if that is "lean" then yeah it will be there on the gauge. But say the gauge wants 17:1 A/F ratio to be lean, then you have a problem and need to correct it.
 

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I guess the question is what constitutes lean. When you are driving like a grandma your car is targeting 14.64 A/F ratio. So if that is "lean" then yeah it will be there on the gauge. But say the gauge wants 17:1 A/F ratio to be lean, then you have a problem and need to correct it.
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Say John

I don't know much about these kinds of gauges and have never seen one but would you agree with this kind of thinking?

From what I've seen others say the gauge has a row of colored lights. It would seem to make sense for the center of the row to be 14.7 with the left as lean and the right as rich.

I know Mike's car is heavily modded but for say a stocker with good sensors and everything........................

Don't you think a steady cruise, which would be in CL, would show the center lights as being turned on?

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Grady
 

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Say John

I don't know much about these kinds of gauges and have never seen one but would you agree with this kind of thinking?

From what I've seen others say the gauge has a row of colored lights. It would seem to make sense for the center of the row to be 14.7 with the left as lean and the right as rich.

I know Mike's car is heavily modded but for say a stocker with good sensors and everything........................

Don't you think a steady cruise, which would be in CL, would show the center lights as being turned on?

Later
Grady
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If the center of the gauge is 14.7 then yeah it should stay near the middle area.
 

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Well Mike

Is that close to how the thing works?

Later
Grady
 

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i'm not sure what ideal is for that specific gauge.... i guess i should check
 
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