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gotchopsticks

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i have an 02gt, with a tri-ax shifter, flows and O/R x-pipe. when i shift to second durring a race or just fooling around, i burnout enough to fishtail, on clean asphault. i figure that isnt good for racing, loosing traction and all, so i am wondering what tactics i should try to correct this. buying slicks, fatter tires or rims is out of the pic for a while. right now i am running Kuhmo 245/45/17. thanks
 
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If you are purchasing slicks a great pair
would be Nitto's!
 
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What RPM are you shifting at? The reason I ask is it sounds like you're shifting too soon, and are still more in the higher part of the torque band, and not the HP band. Look at a dyno chart, and that might make more sense. On a GT, if you're really good at power shifting, aim for 5500 RPM and see if the rear still kicks loose.

Jerry
 

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Get a set of good LCA's and that will help a LOT!
 

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Darkhorse845 said:
If you are purchasing slicks a great pair
would be Nitto's!
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BFG G-Force TA/KD all the way
 
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my shift point is between 5500-5700. like i said before, slicks are out of the question because this is my daily driver, and i dont plan on taking it to the track anytime soon. should i not floor it when i shift? and im guessing it will be alot easier to break traction once i get my 4:10's, huh?
 

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if you dont plan on taking it to the track, why are you concerned and why would you get 4.10s? (besides the fun factor)
 
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i am concerned because i like to go fast, and show up all the ricers in my town that think they are cool with the exhaust that sounds like a go-ped. the reason i dont want to go to a track is due to my location and transportation. and i beleive 4:10's will make my car more fun as well. but if anyone can answer my question about loosing traction, i would greatly appreciate it.
 
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double clutch, or don't throw the clutch out extremely fast. If i ease it out in second, I have no traction problems even with 295s. But if i just thrash the gears, first second and third are basically non existent.
 
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4.10s definitely make your car much more fun. Grab some gears, and get a lightened aluminum driveshaft. Take some of the rotational inertia away and the car will drive much smoother.
 
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i feel extremly stupid asking, but what does it mean by double clutching? i think for me it would be kinds hard to ease while my adrenaline is pumping durring a race, and wouldnt that make yur shifting slower? i thought faster shifting was better durring racing
 

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The term "double clutching" doesn't refer to your problem here and isn't used in drag racing...

I didn't have traction problems in my 2000 GT and it still ran the same times as everyone else did...it would chirp second good but that was it...

Alot of things can determine traction problems: Type of pavement/wet/dry/tire or tire condition/gearing/suspension or condition of suspension/weight/etc...

I wouldn't powershift (holding down the gas during shifting) your car...the trans will last longer if you keep that to a minimum...

Yes the 410's will make it worse in the traction department...
 

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BryanRoush3 said:
double clutch, or don't throw the clutch out extremely fast. If i ease it out in second, I have no traction problems even with 295s. But if i just thrash the gears, first second and third are basically non existent.
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Double clutching is a downshifting technique that promotes smoother transitions and lower transmission wear. It is useful for road racing, prolonging transmission life, and giving you an overall smoother ride.
 

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Something that helped out on my car was getting subframe connecters. Once I got them installed the car stopped going sideways on hard shifts and just chirped the tires and kept going straight.
 
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first off, i dont power shift, everytime i depress the clutch, i let off the gas. but according to my friends, i shift the fastest out of them all. so am i doing everything correct? or should i just shift slower? thanks for everyones help
 

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Shift slower if you don't want your back end kicking sideways. Or wider stickier tires.

I get the same thing in my 04 GT auto. It scares the heck out of my wife.
 
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but if i shift slower wont that make my time slower? what tires would you recomend? thanks
 
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Shift fast and get some Nitto 555's!
 
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