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Anyone running a 90mm Lightning MAF???

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Gearbanger 101

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....and if so, what are you using for your intake tube? I'm going with a 75mm T/B and 90mm Lightning MAF on my Blown 4.6 and am wondering what everyone's using for an intake tube? So far it either looks like a C&L or a custom home made set up?
 
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im using a 90MM Lightning MAF with an Anderson Power Pipe on my Blown 4.6. The Anderson Power Pipe is basically a glorified intake tube that is supposed to give you like 2 more pounds of boost, also just using stock throttle body and stuff because its all good anyways (bullitt)
 
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Hey Gearbanger, what's up? With my 1st generation Allen where the TB gets mounted in the back by the firewall, I was able to use the stock rubber tube from the air box to the MAF, then found a flexible hose in the McMaster Carr catalog which worked to the TB. I am going to the 90mm this winter. From reading your posts, I am confident you are running an Eaton, but I do not know what type, Saleen, Allen, or what.
 

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Hey Gearbanger, what's up? With my 1st generation Allen where the TB gets mounted in the back by the firewall, I was able to use the stock rubber tube from the air box to the MAF, then found a flexible hose in the McMaster Carr catalog which worked to the TB. I am going to the 90mm this winter. From reading your posts, I am confident you are running an Eaton, but I do not know what type, Saleen, Allen, or what.
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Nope, you are correct. It’s an Allen REV I. I’m going with their base kit that they’ll equip it with a 9psi pulley and SCT chip. From there I bought a set of 36lb injectors, 90mm Lightning Mass Air and am working on getting a 75mm throttle body (probably a BBK unless I can find an Accufab cheap?). I realize that all of it is overkill, but just in case I plan on spinning the blower a little harder later on, I might as well have all the supporting parts in place before hand. It’ll be topping off a forged 18cc short block and ported PI heads.

Most of the guys on the TCCOA forum figure that with this set up it should be good for 340-350rwhp.

Any suggestions…what did you think of their tune with the kit? I plan on going for a dyno tune later on, but I live in Ontario, Canada so driving to California to have it done right away is out of the question.
 
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I'm using the KB intake tube.
 
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IMO...thats not enough rwhp to need the LMAF yet , save your money and run the stocker with the 36 lbs injectors , upgrade to the LMAF when you need 42 lbs injectors ......
 

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IMO...thats not enough rwhp to need the LMAF yet , save your money and run the stocker with the 36 lbs injectors , upgrade to the LMAF when you need 42 lbs injectors ......
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Keep in mind....this is a Cougar, not a Mustang. The stock MAF on it is only 70mm with a big old aluminum center post running down the middle of the sample tube. I realize that it's not moving enough air yet, to warrant a 90mm, but If all goes well, it eventually will, so why not go all out if I’ve got to replace it anyway? It's not like a throttle body in the sense that you would lose torque and/or horsepower by going to big. Besides that, a 90mm Lightning MAF is a very inexpensive piece and I'll be having the SCT programmed to work in conjunction with the 36lb/hr injectors along with it.
 
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Gearbanger 101 said:
Keep in mind....this is a Cougar, not a Mustang. The stock MAF on it is only 70mm with a big old aluminum center post running down the middle of the sample tube. I realize that it's not moving enough air yet, to warrant a 90mm, but If all goes well, it eventually will, so why not go all out if I’ve got to replace it anyway? It's not like a throttle body in the sense that you would lose torque and/or horsepower by going to big. Besides that, a 90mm Lightning MAF is a very inexpensive piece and I'll be having the SCT programmed to work in conjunction with the 36lb/hr injectors along with it.
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didnt realize what you were working with .....but if you look around maybe someone on here will be nice enough to give you an 80mm off there mustang and then you could save a few dollars for now .....
 

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To late ....bought the 90mm Lightning Meter and the 36lb/hr injectors as a package deal before I even made the thread. $335.00 shipped to my door. Sounded reasonable enough to me.
 
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Gearbanger 101 said:
Nope, you are correct. It’s an Allen REV I. I’m going with their base kit that they’ll equip it with a 9psi pulley and SCT chip. From there I bought a set of 36lb injectors, 90mm Lightning Mass Air and am working on getting a 75mm throttle body (probably a BBK unless I can find an Accufab cheap?). I realize that all of it is overkill, but just in case I plan on spinning the blower a little harder later on, I might as well have all the supporting parts in place before hand. It’ll be topping off a forged 18cc short block and ported PI heads.

Most of the guys on the TCCOA forum figure that with this set up it should be good for 340-350rwhp.

Any suggestions…what did you think of their tune with the kit? I plan on going for a dyno tune later on, but I live in Ontario, Canada so driving to California to have it done right away is out of the question.
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Sorry I couldn't get back to ya sooner. I thought the Allen tune was too conservative. Scott told me that they tune based on the 91 octane fuel they have in CA. I told him to tune for 93 octane, but I do not think they did. I picked up 1.5 mph and 1 tenth in the 1/4mile with the pulley and the chip. That, and the fact that there is not even a hint of even a touch of detonation. I ran the 6psi pulley with no chip (stock ECM) and had a little pinging that you didn't even notice unless the windows were up, but my A/F ratio was good so I just would add a little octane boost and let it ride. I haven't been on the dyno since before then, so when I get my cams installed I plan on going up to see Jim Roal for that. I plan on seeing somewhere between 330 to 350 RWHP then. I am trapping at over 106.5mph so I should be there easy.
 

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prsrizdgt, do you ever post on TCCOA.com? There are about a dozen or so guys running the AED kit on their MN12's. I know it's not quite the same as the Mustang kit, but some of these guys really know their stuff. More than a few are well within the mid-high 12's with the 9psi kits...and that's in a 3800lb T-Bird/Cougar. Mike Siska is even knocking on the 10's with his AED race kit.
 
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I never have checked it out. I probably should. Even though I don't have the timeslip to show a high 12 second run, I think it has it in it already. We will now come spring after the cams, LCA's and tune. In fact, unless it blows, I can pretty much promise a 12.80 on street radials.
 

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I'd love to be able to see that out of my Cougar....but considering the 400lb or so weight difference between our cars, I'm gonna have to be creative.
 
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