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Anyway to change gears with a 3 speed manual tranny?

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I'm in 3rd gear by about 35 mph with my manual 3 spd transmission. Is there anyway I can change the gears so i'm not changing gears so quickly?
 

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if you arent getting on it, a c4 will go into 3rd by about 30mph. All you gotta do is change the rear gears. Jack the rear up and turn the driveshaft with your hands and see how many turns it takes to get the tire to turn one revolution. If this is 3 or lower you should be set. If its higher like 3.5 or so, you can change the rear gears.
 
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You'd have to have an extremely low rear gear to be in 3rd by 35mph. Something like 4.11's to do that. Yes you can change the rear ratio. What rear does it have? 8" or 9"?
 

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D.Hearne said:
You'd have to have an extremely low rear gear to be in 3rd by 35mph. Something like 4.11's to do that. Yes you can change the rear ratio. What rear does it have? 8" or 9"?
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its a 6 banger, prolly has the 7.X" one, w/e it is
 
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Using numerically low rear axle ratios (2.79, 3.00) cause the tranny to feel longer between gear shifts. Conversely using a high rear axle ratio (3.55, 3.79, 4.11) causes the shifts to feel progressively shorter. Changing the ratio also affects the cars acceleration. Numerically low rear axles have poor acceleration compared to those with high numbers. Numerically low rear axles have relatively higher top speeds than those with high numbers. Its all a matter of what you want most. Installing a five-speed allows you to get the best of both.
 
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What rpm are you shifting at? Even with 4.11's you shouldn't be in 3rd by 35 mph.
 
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I just looked at your car's page (my eyes hurt! why do you have red writing on that blue back ground with white stripes? ouch my eyes).

It looks like you have about 26" tall tires. Is that correct? What size are the tires? What rpm are you turning at 60 mph?
 

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tjm73 said:
What rpm are you shifting at? Even with 4.11's you shouldn't be in 3rd by 35 mph.
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ya he would, my c4 had 4.11's before and it would shift into 2nd just idling down the driveway at 5mph.
 
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65fastback2+2 said:
ya he would, my c4 had 4.11's before and it would shift into 2nd just idling down the driveway at 5mph.
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He has a 3 speed manual transmission, so he controls when it shifts into high gear.
 

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tjm73 said:
He has a 3 speed manual transmission, so he controls when it shifts into high gear.
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ya i know, but im just saying 4.11's could be causing one to shift into 3rd at 35 mph.
 
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At 35 mph with 26" tires he'd be turning just 1800-1900 rpm. Certainly not high enough to require a 3rd gear shift. 2nd at the same speed is only about 3250 rpm. Hell, 1st is only 5558, or about when he would shift to 2nd if he was really wringing it out.

He could go into 3rd, but wouldn't NEED to at 35 mph.

EDIT: this is assuming 4.11 gears
 

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yeah unfortunatley I dont have a tach so I dont know how many RPMs i'm turning. But right now the 7 inch is in there, but I have an 8 inch ready to go in after I get it painted...i dont really wanna lose my acceleration, so if i have to deal with it its fine. I was just wondering if i could change it thats all
 
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Yes you can change gears. 3.50's would be a nice road gear.
 

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brtnstrns said:
yeah unfortunatley I dont have a tach so I dont know how many RPMs i'm turning. But right now the 7 inch is in there, but I have an 8 inch ready to go in after I get it painted...i dont really wanna lose my acceleration, so if i have to deal with it its fine. I was just wondering if i could change it thats all
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which is why you turn the driveshaft and count
 

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You really should post what gear is in the car now and what gear you put in your 8" that is going in...
 
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ratio411 said:
You really should post what gear is in the car now and what gear you put in your 8" that is going in...
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Post your gear ratio and your tire size and I'll calculate your rpm's so you have an idea of what revs you are turning at several speeds.
 
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