Build Thread As Requested: Project Horse Manure

Davedacarpainter · Feb 28, 2016

madmike1157 said:
Bass boat huh?......
"Reptile, meet Fish."
"Fish, meet Reptile"

I-I-I just don't know. I picked the SS paint, because it minimizes the time to do the painting.( and it was cheaper) I also liked the color ( always have).
But I want to get the end result I'm expecting.
( mirror finish,flat as glass).
The paint in the garage is a Shopline product. I know it's cheap, and I'm sure it's a catalyzed acrylic enamel. It's not a low VOC paint, but it is what it is. I have it. In the late 70's, I had a friend with a Acrylic enamel paint job that had been color sanded and buffed, and it looked like wet plastic.

I used the same paint when I painted the engine compartment on the orange/black drag car,..and w/o doing a thing...it looked wet all the time. I'm just at a point now where the simpler, the better,..But at this stage, I don't mind letting it sit in the can for eternity if I am going the wrong way.

Heck Mike, I loved enamel before we ever got into the eurethane paint systems. You are right about the way it lays out. just beautiful.
That color you like must have some pretty large metallic in it to have that caveat with it. Get a small amount, pint or so and spray a test panel and see what you can live with.
Enamels and modern day single stages lay out so flat and with such ease, it's hard not to like them. Durability is the issue.
BTW, bass boat metal flake is just what we refer to the larger metallics as. Look at a bass fishing boat. That is where it gets its name from.

CarMichael Angelo · Feb 28, 2016

Davedacarpainter said:
Heck Mike, I loved enamel before we ever got into the eurethane paint systems. You are right about the way it lays out. just beautiful.
That color you like must have some pretty large metallic in it to have that caveat with it. Get a small amount, pint or so and spray a test panel and see what you can live with.
Enamels and modern day single stages lay out so flat and with such ease, it's hard not to like them. Durability is the issue.
BTW, bass boat metal flake is just what we refer to the larger metallics as. Look at a bass fishing boat. That is where it gets its name from.

Oh I know what you meant by the reference, I'm just thinking out loud. I don't want somebody saying that the paint "looks like it shoulda been on a bass boat" instead of on my car.

The paint color I have is the standard factory ford non-metallic Competition Orange. If durability, based on the typical daily driver status is the limiting factor to using it, I got no problems then. The Monster is not a daily, and it will live in a garage for the majority of it's life. That said,...I'd expect the paint will last as long as I want it to.

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

Well, like I stated earlier, you get her out in the sunlight, it quickly becomes a 10 foot car. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and i missed a ton doing the bodywork. Hey, did you see the car before? Compound that with fighting water problems, then pressure problems trying to stuff extra water traps in the line.. Lol I KNOW I can do better next time.. Here it is in the sun

The good news is, next time will be soon, because I'm going to have to re-do the roof. Ugh. I had a problem with my filler and one batch had clumps that didn't mix with catalyst, leaving raw wet spots that bubbled up under the primer. I thought i cut out all of them and patched well enough, but more are showing up as little bubbles under the paint. It absolutely kills me.. But my boy doesn't care. He's just ready to drive. So, what I decided is we are going to let it go for now, and wait to see what else show up before trying to fix it. I have plenty of paint left, after all. My father in law tells me we are always our own worst critic.. Right now I think i might be. Now, i have to figure out how to remove swirls without a fine buffing pad...

Davedacarpainter · Feb 28, 2016

madmike1157 said:
Oh I know what you meant by the reference, I'm just thinking out loud. I don't want somebody saying that the paint "looks like it shoulda been on a bass boat" instead of on my car.

The paint color I have is the standard factory ford non-metallic Competition Orange. If durability, based on the typical daily driver status is the limiting factor to using it, I got no problems then. The Monster is not a daily, and it will live in a garage for the majority of it's life. That said,...I'd expect the paint will last as long as I want it to.

The new orange on dodge challengers has gold pearl it it. Take a look at that and see what you think. Obviously a more subtle sparkle than what you have.

Davedacarpainter · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Well, like I stated earlier, you get her out in the sunlight, it quickly becomes a 10 foot car. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and i missed a ton doing the bodywork. Hey, did you see the car before? Compound that with fighting water problems, then pressure problems trying to stuff extra water traps in the line.. Lol I KNOW I can do better next time.. Here it is in the sun

The good news is, next time will be soon, because I'm going to have to re-do the roof. Ugh. I had a problem with my filler and one batch had clumps that didn't mix with catalyst, leaving raw wet spots that bubbled up under the primer. I thought i cut out all of them and patched well enough, but more are showing up as little bubbles under the paint. It absolutely kills me.. But my boy doesn't care. He's just ready to drive. So, what I decided is we are going to let it go for now, and wait to see what else show up before trying to fix it. I have plenty of paint left, after all. My father in law tells me we are always our own worst critic.. Right now I think i might be. Now, i have to figure out how to remove swirls without a fine buffing pad...

You can hide them with wax. Don't put any on for about a month though. You have to let the solvents finish coming out of the paint.
When you wax it, use a natural wax like carnuba. Any commercial wax won't play nice with a new paint job.
Otherwise, it really shouldn't cost too much to get a grey foam glazing pad from 3m, that plus their grey glaze compound will remove those swirls.
Too bad you don't live close by, I'd take care of it for you. Well....At least show you how and give you the stuff you'd need.
The car is beautiful btw Mr. Critic. That color is fantastic!

CarMichael Angelo · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Well, like I stated earlier, you get her out in the sunlight, it quickly becomes a 10 foot car. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and i missed a ton doing the bodywork. Hey, did you see the car before? Compound that with fighting water problems, then pressure problems trying to stuff extra water traps in the line.. Lol I KNOW I can do better next time.. Here it is in the sun

The good news is, next time will be soon, because I'm going to have to re-do the roof. Ugh. I had a problem with my filler and one batch had clumps that didn't mix with catalyst, leaving raw wet spots that bubbled up under the primer. I thought i cut out all of them and patched well enough, but more are showing up as little bubbles under the paint. It absolutely kills me.. But my boy doesn't care. He's just ready to drive. So, what I decided is we are going to let it go for now, and wait to see what else show up before trying to fix it. I have plenty of paint left, after all. My father in law tells me we are always our own worst critic.. Right now I think i might be. Now, i have to figure out how to remove swirls without a fine buffing pad...

My old " do it twice" nickname is for sale,....wanna buy it?

RaggedGT · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Well, like I stated earlier, you get her out in the sunlight, it quickly becomes a 10 foot car. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and i missed a ton doing the bodywork. Hey, did you see the car before? Compound that with fighting water problems, then pressure problems trying to stuff extra water traps in the line.. Lol I KNOW I can do better next time.. Here it is in the sun

The good news is, next time will be soon, because I'm going to have to re-do the roof. Ugh. I had a problem with my filler and one batch had clumps that didn't mix with catalyst, leaving raw wet spots that bubbled up under the primer. I thought i cut out all of them and patched well enough, but more are showing up as little bubbles under the paint. It absolutely kills me.. But my boy doesn't care. He's just ready to drive. So, what I decided is we are going to let it go for now, and wait to see what else show up before trying to fix it. I have plenty of paint left, after all. My father in law tells me we are always our own worst critic.. Right now I think i might be. Now, i have to figure out how to remove swirls without a fine buffing pad...

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I'd still be damn proud of it. That car is night and day different from where it started.hide the roof with some stripes
lol

skyline247 · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Well, like I stated earlier, you get her out in the sunlight, it quickly becomes a 10 foot car. My eyesight ain't what it used to be, and i missed a ton doing the bodywork. Hey, did you see the car before? Compound that with fighting water problems, then pressure problems trying to stuff extra water traps in the line.. Lol I KNOW I can do better next time.. Here it is in the sun

The good news is, next time will be soon, because I'm going to have to re-do the roof. Ugh. I had a problem with my filler and one batch had clumps that didn't mix with catalyst, leaving raw wet spots that bubbled up under the primer. I thought i cut out all of them and patched well enough, but more are showing up as little bubbles under the paint. It absolutely kills me.. But my boy doesn't care. He's just ready to drive. So, what I decided is we are going to let it go for now, and wait to see what else show up before trying to fix it. I have plenty of paint left, after all. My father in law tells me we are always our own worst critic.. Right now I think i might be. Now, i have to figure out how to remove swirls without a fine buffing pad...

I still think it looks great...big difference from what you started with. Of course he wants to drive it already. That car looks bad ass. Good work!

Fwiw, I would also wait a bit to see if anything else shows up before redoing anything.

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Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

Thanks fellas. I just pride myself on craftsmanship, and cringe at the idea of someone thinking it looks bad. My wife says, "Honey, it's a 16 year old's car. Not your car. Put it together and let him go hit a mailbox. Lol...

And Mike, I've got you beat big time on the number of times i do things..lol.

CarMichael Angelo · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Thanks fellas. I just pride myself on craftsmanship, and cringe at the idea of someone thinking it looks bad. My wife says, "Honey, it's a 16 year old's car. Not your car. Put it together and let him go hit a mailbox. Lol...

And Mike, I've got you beat big time on the number of times i do things..lol.

Look,...it's one thing to have to chew your food twenty seven times,...Try building a Gila gill over, and over, and over.
Out of steel,...
That has to be welded in,...
That causes warpage of the parent sheet metal,....
That requires bodywork,....
That you have to do over, and over, and over again.

Then you move on to a Gila nostril,..and the process begins all over again.

Now....
You still wanna pass on the Do it twice nickname?
I'll sell it cheap.

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

madmike1157 said:
Look,...it's one thing to have to chew your food twenty seven times,...Try building a Gila gill over, and over, and over.
Out of steel,...
That has to be welded in,...
That causes warpage of the parent sheet metal,....
That requires bodywork,....
That you have to do over, and over, and over again.

Then you move on to a Gila nostril,..and the process begins all over again.

Now....
You still wanna pass on the Do it twice nickname?
I'll sell it cheap.

I appreciate the offer, but i need to spend a small fortune on missing interior parts. I'll get back to you when i have some free cash. You dont have a lower shifter boot/seal or a good set of scuff plates, do you?

CarMichael Angelo · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
I appreciate the offer, but i need to spend a small fortune on missing interior parts. I'll get back to you when i have some free cash. You dont have a lower shifter boot/seal or a good set of scuff plates, do you?

I used to. Had a brand new one Up until yesterday.

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

madmike1157 said:
I used to. Had a brand new one Up until yesterday.

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

Davedacarpainter · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:

Man, you have carpeting! I can't wait to get to that stage.
Your boy is lucky to have that car. Outstanding Allen.

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

Davedacarpainter said:
Man, you have carpeting! I can't wait to get to that stage.
Your boy is lucky to have that car. Outstanding Allen.

Only if he keeps his grades up.. Hehe! Then dad will have an extra car for work!

Not really, but boy does he get torqued when i tell him that.

Thanks Dave.

Davedacarpainter · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Only if he keeps his grades up.. Hehe! Then dad will have an extra car for work!

Not really, but boy does he get torqued when i tell him that.

Thanks Dave.

You could still just swap the turbo?!

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

Davedacarpainter said:
You could still just swap the turbo?!

Nah. It's hard to tell from the pics, but that green car is wayyyy better on all levels. Besides he is in love with that car. No way he's letting go of it.

Davedacarpainter · Feb 28, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
Nah. It's hard to tell from the pics, but that green car is wayyyy better on all levels. Besides he is in love with that car. No way he's letting go of it.

I got an idea of that from the beginning pictures, lol. I bet he loves that car.
My son Andy will write on the dust "Andy's Mustang" on my car......as if.......

Boosted92LX · Feb 28, 2016

Davedacarpainter said:
I got an idea of that from the beginning pictures, lol. I bet he loves that car.
My son Andy will write on the dust "Andy's Mustang" on my car......as if.......

That's funny, reminds me of a story. My son was about 4 1/2 years old, and momma was teaching him to write his name. I had picked up an 84 GT and came home from work one day to find "Samuel" scribbled down the side of my car with a big permanent marker. When i brought him into the garage and asked him why, he said "Daddy, I wanted it to be our car together." I didn't have the heart to paddle him, and I ended up painting it orange. That was his favorite color at the time.

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