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bad fuel cut help plz

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torch93

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i have a 93 5.0 2 tone blue/grey (SHES AT THE PAINT SHOP AS WE SPEAK!!...) with a 342 stroker full forged internals, 10.5:1 probe pistons, 185cc 62 AFRs, x-cam- 542/542, 24lbs ford racing injectors walbro 255, bbk fuel pressure reg.,typhoon upper and lower intake,76mm maf, 75mm bbk TB, bbk cold air, tremec 5spd,hurst short shifter, centerforce dual friction clutch, ford racing 373 gears, bbk pulleys, bbk shorty headers, bbk H-pipe wo/cats,

people say computer, fuelpump.( which i have a new walbro 255 with fuel press. reg. at 40lbs) fuel lines, fuel rail... any one had a similar problem?
 
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we need a tad more info. can you describe the symptoms you are experiencing?
 

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just wanted to add... i had 42lbs injectors with 73mm blue tube(for 24lbs) and i only had like 20 miles on my brand new motor so can really get on it but i would pull my plugs and they were covered in gas.. i know too big.. but i wouldnt have fuel cut, so i orderd a c&l mass air with the 42lbs calibrated tube and ran my car but it was running way too lean? so someone told me that 42lbs are way too big to go with 24lbs and now i get major fuel cut.?
 

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i would drive it really easy and it would be fine,.. but when i start to give to more throttle it would start to miss and if i just full throttle then it would just act like if i got my rev limiter at 2000 rpms.. like 2step when i drive,.. the plugs are really lean
 
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have you changed the fuel filter?
 
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I think your major problem is you're using a C&L meter which tries tricking the computer with sampling tubes rather than getting a meter that has electronics calibrated for the injectors, or better yet just go get it tuned and you shouldn't have a problem
 

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Step #1 Dump the codes.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 19-May-2009 to update drawing for dumping the codes on 86-88 Mustangs with no check engine light.

Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.


Step #2 you only get code 11 for both engine stopped and engine running
The TFI module mounted on the distributor is usually the culprit for a high speed miss on a warm engine. If the problem does not occur when the engine is cold, the TFI module is definitely suspect. You may need a special socket to remove the TFI module, but most auto parts stores will have one for $5-$7.

Be sure to use plenty of the heat sink grease on the new TFI and clean the old grease off the distributor.



See Automotive Tools Specialty | Auto Mechanic & Technician Diagnostic, Testing Equipment | Thexton
 

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Very helpful ideas that I gotta try.. My car is being painted at the moment so I can't go and try those solutions... But I do get the car back this Friday coming up.. As far as the maf wat should I i use? Right now I have a vortec 73mm that's calibrated for the 24lbs injectors... Oh also when I would first start my car up it would have a nice idle cuz of my cam but once it would warm up after driving it it would idle like if I have a bone stock motor with flowmasters, so I went and bought a ign. Mod. And will try it on and see results.. I will wait til I get my car back and trouble shoot and see how I end up.. Thank you guys, I'm new to this site and you guys are very helpful.. Will keep you guys posted
 
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