BC/CC vs. Single Stage questions answered!

SVT32VDOHC

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There were a couple of BC/CC vs. single stage threads around here. One of the questions in there was can you spray clear coat over single stage??

It seemed as though nobody had a concrete answer, or nobody knew someone who had done this.

I'm gonna say don't do it! I have a thread about the power wheels I painted for my nephew. I painted some parts in single stage on a work bench. The next day, I painted other parts in bc/cc on the same work bench. Well, this morning I came in, and the area of the work bench that both paints got onto....LIFTED....BAD!!

So don't do it guys. Stay either one way or the other. Check it out below....


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25thmustang

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Well with all this time and paint you should grab 2 fenders or some other part and test it out for real. Do the prep and such and find out.

 

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I'm pretty sure that is that. The single stage was laid down Tuesday, then the base/clear Wednesday night. It lifted for sure. Those two chemicals in those paints, must not mix.

 

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They tell you right at the paint shop they dont mix when you buy paint. When i bought my paint they said dont spray it over a single stage. They said it will lift. And viola you have the proof on your bench.

 

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I had the nose/fenders repainted on my car. They had enamal single stage on them. I sanded it really well, my uncle primed it an sprayed it with bc/cc an it lifted in like 3 or 4 spots. I'm thinking of doing the rest of the car, is there a way to prevent this? would a sealer help?

 

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lang williams said:

I had the nose/fenders repainted on my car. They had enamal single stage on them. I sanded it really well, my uncle primed it an sprayed it with bc/cc an it lifted in like 3 or 4 spots. I'm thinking of doing the rest of the car, is there a way to prevent this? would a sealer help?

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A sealer would help...but the reason it lifted is because there must have been some enamal still showing somewhere....actually it doesn't matter, it still eats through the primer too.

Best bet, and the only good way to do it is to strip those areas right to the metal. I'm even talking jamb areas too. I would strip the body down to the metal with 80 grit on a DA, then do the jambs with a sand/media blaster or a stripping wheel on a drill. You want ALL that enamal gone. Then lay down some good urethane primer and start blocking sanding. Repeat prime and block sanding until it's nice and flat. Then lay some sealer, bc/cc, or single stage, whichever you prefer. I HIGHLY recommend a sealer. Now that I have used on on my past two Mustangs and my girls Grand Prix, I will never paint a car without it.

 

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thanks for the info....sounds like a lot of work, maybe it will look ok for another year or two (lol)

 

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HAHA...yeah it is a lot of work. I remember the LOONG nights stripping Hack Job. And actually that car was easy, because it was original paint, and back in 81 Ford didn't put much paint on there, however I had to strip all that rock guard crap they spray on before the paint. That was a PITA....but it was all worth it.

 

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Is it safe to use that stripper inside a garage with the door open? I don't have any ventalation. I have the front clip off right now. I had it painted an cleared. It lifted in a few places though. Now i'm thinking I might paint the rest before i put the front clip on. The orig plan was to just buff out the old enamal. If I do all the prep myself my uncle will spray it for almost nothing. I just have to get all the materials.