red05bullitgt said:I'd really like to know where all this so called extra airflow is coming from ?? If it's going through the upper grill ? , I just don't see how that much airflow is able to pass through first the grill itself, then through the A/C condensor and finally the radiator..Maybe it's just me ? or I'm just missing something?? .....I don't know either ?? I haven't heard anything as of yet about a plug n play adapter for the MAF harness, and would still like to know how all this ram air is getting to the intake ?? by going through the upper grill and then through the A/C and radiator ??
PDXStangDude said:Is the article Shannon mentions put the WMS against- IIRC and AirRaid CAI, and K&N? If so then yes the WMS should beat them. However I do not believe WMS will beat C&L or JLT. It may be comparable but that is about it.
I don't hate the WMS product but I am perfectly happy with my JLT II!
Although I can agree about air traveling up into the ram air box through the hood latch opening ? However, I'm still a bit skeptic about the 2 other openings behind the fog lights ?? It seems to me that the fog lights are an obstruction, now if there were no fog's in the grill ? perhaps there would be more room for air to travel up into the box ?..Sorry, but I'm still not convinced about the WMS's ability to create more airflow than any of the other cold air systems ?? Think I'll just stick with my Steeda CAIradtexas said:This is part ot the previous emails that she sent back to me mid August.
Shannon says:
No pictures with hood down as you can't see anything, air is taken in
between hood and grill and through the grill. The ram air box has
three large openings where the air travels up into the box.
I am sure most have seen this picture already but since we are on the subject. It looks like the three openings are behind the fog lights and at the hood latch. So there is no air taken from behind the radiator. It comes in from front grill before getting to the hot stuff.
Anyone read that article she referred to in Muscle Magazine yet?? Nothing online that I can find. I am sure some one here gets that subscription and can confirm what she is saying?
radtexas said:She said it was tested against the Steeda and others. And that the 80 mm w/o tune was equal to the Steeda with a tune. And that the 95mm beat the Steeda. But you did not mention Steeda. Did she try to pull the wool over my eyes or did you just not mention the Steeda. I think from all dyno's results I have seen the Steeda, JLT & C&L are real close so it is more owner preference when deciding.
Pro Mod said:I just don't understand it... C&L and JLT have been PROVEN on the TRACK. Why does everybody have to try to reinvent the wheel?
red05bullitgt said:First of all, did you read the article I posted ?? And to answer your question, when it comes to marketing and advertising claims you often read about?? No I don't believe in any of them..However there's a very huge difference between vendors pitching false advertising claims compared to one of the top 20 SCT tuners in the US who conducted an independant comparison of 11 different cold air intakes both with and without tuning, in addition if you look at the very last page of the article you'll also notice that MD motorsports who conducted the testing lists both his website and phone number along with each of the cold air kits that were tested...Although I can agree that if a system was designed that would draw colder air from the fenderwell ? I'd be all for it..But on the other hand, you'll discover for yourself that most of us forum members are not willing to risk cutting large holes in the fenderwell's of their brand new cars for just a few more HP. (myself included) it's just not worth it...Therefore, until either yourself or somebody else happens to come up with a better design ?? my fellow forum members along with myself, will continue on with our current cold air and tuner packages that have been proven time and time again, to produce the best performance results..end of storyBTW, even if you could run a larger hose into the fenderwell, what would that accomplish ?? you would still have to cut a larger hole in the fenderwell, in order to gain any real benefit anyhow..
Although I can't speak for all the other members ? you definitely did not anger me in anyway..you have every right to speak your mind and voice your opinions, that's part of what this forum is all about ? just because we may not share your opinions doesn't mean their not considered as valuable information in fact you brought up some very interesting points as far as I'm concerned ? As for defending our choice of air intakes ? we choose them because some of the top SCT tuners such as Bamachips, Brenspeed and MD motorsports who conducted the independant 3rd party testing has proven time and time again on the dyno, these air intakes provide the best HP and Torque performance gains as claimed by the manufacturer...Anyway, hope you didn't take anything that was said in the wrong way..faspony said:I totally agree with you guys! I thought I could create some good conversation on this issue if I played the devil's advocate. I know my replacement type filter is no match for the under hood type cold air systems.
I think they look cool too and they make some good power.
It was interesting to read some of your replies and how well you all defended your choice of cold air induction.
Hope I didn't anger you too much.
Faspony
HEAVYGT said:I Love my Granatelli Motor Sports Polished CAI with performance chip tune...
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