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Best Power Gain Approach

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  • Start date Start date Jun 22, 2008

final5-0

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  • Jun 22, 2008
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Just some thoughts from my perspective of playing around with my 95GT

Lets set the foundation for my application

Weekend toy only ... NOT ... My daily driver

Goals:

I wanted around 300 to the wheels with these stipulations

1) Naturally Aspirated combo built with my existing OEM block
2) 100% legal and pass yearly Texas emmissions testing
3) Good low & mid range torque with power to 6K or better
4) Dynoed on a Dynojet with SAE Calibration
5) Stock like driveability

Now ... having done did that and getting the T-Shirt and all ........

I just gotta say I've had a lot of fun
since I turned the wrenches and did the tuning myself

I mean ... the combo turned out better than I expected
Wish I had gone more aggressive with the cam

but still ...

The little GT is so much fun to drive with it's strong low
and mid range power curve and all .....
3rd & 4th gears just rock :Word:

B U T

If I had another really clean stick trans Stang with 50K miles to do
it all over again ...............

Well ... I'd really like to do it all over ... two times

One way would be an all motor 347

The other would be with
OEM block, OEM parts, and a KB

Any of you guys like me
and
Want to do it all over again ... differently

Grady
 

mustang6tee8

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  • Jun 22, 2008
  • #2
Absolutely! I think about this once a month. I wish I had spent my money on go-fast parts rather than full suspension. Being much wiser now, I'll make well planned decisions on the car in the future. Trust me, when I graduate college and get a good job, it will be GO time for both of my Stangs!!!
 

blksn955.o

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  • Jun 22, 2008
  • #3
I would love to do a turbo setup...347 dart with a T76 or a 393-427 NA motor.

I have thought about buying a roller notch and putting my currant motor in that...then build one of the above combos....

1. Dont have the garage space or funds...yet.

2. I really want to build either a 32 ford 3 window, 37 ford, or factory 5 cobra next when number 1 has been checked off.

3. To do number 2 I would be willing to sell the 94 so it would remove any ability to do any other combo without starting all over again anyway.

Keeping the mustang means 3 car garage at least in the next house if I want to build any of number 2. Two toys would be great...but I will be thankfull to have one. I will be happy either way and just hope the need for change/to have something to tinker with does not force my hand. I really do in the end love the 94...even it turns out slow as hell and gets 8mpg.

In the end. yes I would like to do something else but not because I am unhappy with the currant setup. My only real goal is to have fun with the hobby and learn.
 

reddy351

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Jun 23, 2008
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  • Jun 23, 2008
  • #4
final5-0 said:
Just some thoughts from my perspective of playing around with my 95GT

Lets set the foundation for my application

Weekend toy only ... NOT ... My daily driver

Goals:

I wanted around 300 to the wheels with these stipulations

1) Naturally Aspirated combo built with my existing OEM block
2) 100% legal and pass yearly Texas emmissions testing
3) Good low & mid range torque with power to 6K or better
4) Dynoed on a Dynojet with SAE Calibration
5) Stock like driveability

Now ... having done did that and getting the T-Shirt and all ........

I just gotta say I've had a lot of fun
since I turned the wrenches and did the tuning myself

I mean ... the combo turned out better than I expected
Wish I had gone more aggressive with the cam

but still ...

The little GT is so much fun to drive with it's strong low
and mid range power curve and all .....
3rd & 4th gears just rock :Word:

B U T

If I had another really clean stick trans Stang with 50K miles to do
it all over again ...............

Well ... I'd really like to do it all over ... two times

One way would be an all motor 347

The other would be with
OEM block, OEM parts, and a KB

Any of you guys like me
and
Want to do it all over again ... differently

Grady
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I have a question for you, Grady. I see that there is no 351(+) Windsor option. Why is that? I know that the 347 will be close in CID to a "stockish" Windsor, but it seems like a somewhat popular swap. (And one that I'm considering/amassing parts to do.)

I mean, I know how much you like bottom end, useable power. That would be the "ultimate" in that regard. Just looking for your thoughts on it.
 

final5-0

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reddy351 said:
I have a question for you, Grady. I see that there is no 351(+) Windsor option. Why is that? I know that the 347 will be close in CID to a "stockish" Windsor, but it seems like a somewhat popular swap. (And one that I'm considering/amassing parts to do.)

I mean, I know how much you like bottom end, useable power. That would be the "ultimate" in that regard. Just looking for your thoughts on it.
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Yes Rob

You just gotta consider the Windsor :Word:

You are so right about putting that option on one's short list

Since I'm mostly a Street Car kinda guy
and
We are just thinking out loud here

I suspect I could build up a budget 347 for less cash than a Stroked Windsor
with the special headers, hood, etc

I reckon I'm looking for the most hp per dollar spent kinda thing

If money was not an option ..............

I'd love to do my combo over again with a stouter cam from Ed
along with some porting on my RPM or maybe a Holley intake
and shoot for 350 to 360 SAE to the wheels and see how
close to stock drivability I could tune it to

I've always suspected it would be stock like or not all that far
from it

But Sure ... a big Windsor would be just dandy

Grady
 

Yobi1Kanobi

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  • Jun 23, 2008
  • #6
I would have gone with a higher comp NA rather than my 9.5 and maybe a cam by ed curtis. That saying I was keeping a 302 based motor.

But really I wish I would have spent another 1000 dollars and built a 427 stroker motor either way I bought all the supporting mods that I would have needed anyways. But thats me
 
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