Blowzilla or a good H/C/I swap?
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A friend of mine had a '93 Lightening with a Kenne Bell. It was SICK. Absolutly the best setup...EVER for a street vehicle. It totally sold me on a KB for a street car with any kind of forced induction.
It did change the tone of his exhaust it was a little deeper sounding. Under full throttle you could hear the blower screaming and you could tell the engine was making boat loads of power.... and it was.
It did change the tone of his exhaust it was a little deeper sounding. Under full throttle you could hear the blower screaming and you could tell the engine was making boat loads of power.... and it was.
I'm not really seeing a KB just kill any h/c/i car? What are these stock motor KB cars running? 111+mph??? An afr/custom cam/Performer (rpm) combo can run 110mph...generally speaking...so what are these "destroying" combos of KB's running on stock motors?
Here's a Dyno for a 95 GT:
Mods:
Kenne Bell Blowzilla 2.2L supercharger
30lb/hr injectors.
73mm C&L mass airflow sensor.
190L/h fuel pump
MSD boost retard
That's it! He's running 8 lbs and a conservative tune.
The thing to remember here is that often, a car with more peak HP will be left behind while said vehicle is building power. Makes quite a bit of difference when you're talking about short jaunts down the quarter mile.
Mods:
Kenne Bell Blowzilla 2.2L supercharger
30lb/hr injectors.
73mm C&L mass airflow sensor.
190L/h fuel pump
MSD boost retard
That's it! He's running 8 lbs and a conservative tune.
The thing to remember here is that often, a car with more peak HP will be left behind while said vehicle is building power. Makes quite a bit of difference when you're talking about short jaunts down the quarter mile.
300 ft/lbs at like 2000 or 2500 rpm at the wheels is not uncommon with a KB and it just hovers and you end up with a silly average ammount of torque over a gieven rpm range. No h/c/i can match a positive displacement blower for low end torque. They might match it for hp, but hp isn't what moves you.
When KB first hit the scene, they took a very lightly modified '93 Cobra (exhaust) and ran it stock, then swapped it over the blown and ran it again in the same day. Back to back it dropped liek 1.5-2 seconds and picked up like 13 mph at the top end............. and the car had 3.08 or 3.27 gears. If I remember right it ran low 12's and I think it even dipped into the 11's.
When KB first hit the scene, they took a very lightly modified '93 Cobra (exhaust) and ran it stock, then swapped it over the blown and ran it again in the same day. Back to back it dropped liek 1.5-2 seconds and picked up like 13 mph at the top end............. and the car had 3.08 or 3.27 gears. If I remember right it ran low 12's and I think it even dipped into the 11's.
willys1
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LOL,,,Im sure professionals can do it to hypter.. pistons,people that drive it under 10,000 miles ayear,and is mainly a track car.I put 40,000 miles a year on my car and go the track 70-80 times a year.(70-80 runs).Everyone Ive talked to said not to go over 6psi's...Your supportive talk gets me excited about the idea,but reality tells me not to do it..
willys1 said:
Naaaaaaaah... There are fundamental differences between centrifugals and twin screws (which I'm sure I don't need to go through). There's hyper pistons in that 95 that I posted about too. As far as your mileage goes... it you don't dog it day in and day out, you shouldn't have any trouble whatsoever. Purchase a WB02 meter to go along with your kit. You can keep an eye on everything to ensure that it's all happy.
willys1
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WB02 ?? LOL,,whats the difference in boost between the two?? Boost is boost aint it?Daggar said:
Nope... boost is not boost. Checkout the FAQ pages on www.kennebell.net
If that were the case then there'd only be one kind of supercharger.
If that were the case then there'd only be one kind of supercharger.
The WB02 is a wideband sensor from your 02 sensors that shows you the current air/fuel mixture and can alert you to danger...
Dagger - That is some nice power out of the hyper-powered 95 Gt...I'm impressed. Well there are different kinds of superchargers just like there are different kinds of paper towels
Just different ways of making them and doing their jobs differently...
willys1 - I really wouldn't worry about the hyper pistons (I have a 93 as well)...I believe the pistons will actually outlast the block/crank...just have it tuned right...
Dagger - That is some nice power out of the hyper-powered 95 Gt...I'm impressed. Well there are different kinds of superchargers just like there are different kinds of paper towels
Just different ways of making them and doing their jobs differently...willys1 - I really wouldn't worry about the hyper pistons (I have a 93 as well)...I believe the pistons will actually outlast the block/crank...just have it tuned right...
On ething to think about with a KB when deciding between the standard and Blowzilla set is efficency.
Standard is rated for 6-9 psi
Blowzilla is rated for up to 18 psi
If you are going to cap psi at say 9-10 the standard will be working harder to make that boost, while the Blowzilla will be at the low end of its work capabilities. ie...not working hard to do the same job. That means less heat soak in the pressurized air. Plus the Blowzilla has the bypass valve for times when the engine doens't need the blower, like when you get on the Interstate and travel at a steedy speed.
Standard is rated for 6-9 psi
Blowzilla is rated for up to 18 psi
If you are going to cap psi at say 9-10 the standard will be working harder to make that boost, while the Blowzilla will be at the low end of its work capabilities. ie...not working hard to do the same job. That means less heat soak in the pressurized air. Plus the Blowzilla has the bypass valve for times when the engine doens't need the blower, like when you get on the Interstate and travel at a steedy speed.
willys1
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A SC can increase your mileage!(on the highway) For gears 355's would be good for aod's,,though I'd keep my 373's!! 323's for a 5spd..ms93gt said:
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