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5.0Pilot

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I always read these threads but this is my first time posting anything.

I was driving my white 90 GT. (Ill post pics as soon as I get them up) to the ATM, I leave the lot and get on the road and BANG! I thought somebody had shot at me, I look in the mirror and the belt bounced off the asphalt into the air, I look out the window and there goes my crank pulley. I got it towed over to a friends house and I popped the hood and saw part of the crank poking out of the timimng chain cover at an angle, what happened?

I dont know much about engine building so I need your help please. The engine will have to meet a few criteria, but I will have the best sounding suggestion built and I will post it here. I already have some money set aside but not too much.

I got a good deal on a stock engine block, so I have to build on that. I need it to be under 5 grand. I want it to be driven on the streets. I need it to have all of the original emmisions equipment it came with. The last thing is that I want to add a blower or a turbo sometime in the next few years so I dont want to mess with the set up later.

Help me fill in the rest. (heads, fuel system, injectors, intake, cam...)I need a list of part #'s and anything else I might have missed. I hope I can start buying the parts soon.
 

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are you looking to stroke it? around how much hp are you wanting to have?
 

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As far as power goes I want to maximize what I can get for the money right now, and take advantave of boosting later. If it means going bigger displacement on the stock block thats great as long as it is safe for a street car, I want to drive it around town twice a week, and retain all of the stock accesories.

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explorer top end, stock cam, novi and enjoy
 

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5.0Pilot said:
I always read these threads but this is my first time posting anything.

I was driving my white 90 GT. (Ill post pics as soon as I get them up) to the ATM, I leave the lot and get on the road and BANG! I thought somebody had shot at me, I look in the mirror and the belt bounced off the asphalt into the air, I look out the window and there goes my crank pulley. I got it towed over to a friends house and I popped the hood and saw part of the crank poking out of the timimng chain cover at an angle, what happened?
Your trust bearing probably crapped out on you. I noticed I could move my crank forward and backward about 1/8th of an inch so I tore the motor down and that was what my problem was.
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stykthyn said:
explorer top end, stock cam, novi and enjoy
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x2, explorer Heads and intake, and get a used Hellion kit. Might run you more than $5000 depending on the used set up, if you can even find one, but it allows passing smog, and would be a stout quick car!
 

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5.0Pilot said:
I got a good deal on a stock engine block, so I have to build on that. I need it to be under 5 grand. I want it to be driven on the streets. I need it to have all of the original emmisions equipment it came with. The last thing is that I want to add a blower or a turbo sometime in the next few years so I dont want to mess with the set up later.

Help me fill in the rest. (heads, fuel system, injectors, intake, cam...)I need a list of part #'s and anything else I might have missed. I hope I can start buying the parts soon.
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Guys keep suggesting boost to you because its the end game in your plan. Trust me its worth it, but for now if you dont want to boost it, buy a stout R block or longblock from one of the several businesses I am sure youve read about on here. Then buy a trick flow top end kit and call it good. VERY streetable with a tune and probably just under or around your budget. It would be a great setup for future boosting.
 

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fiveohwblow said:
Guys keep suggesting boost to you because its the end game in your plan. Trust me its worth it, but for now if you dont want to boost it, buy a stout R block or longblock from one of the several businesses I am sure youve read about on here. Then buy a trick flow top end kit and call it good. VERY streetable with a tune and probably just under or around your budget. It would be a great setup for future boosting.
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Yep check on corral and local engine builders some times you can find dart blocks cheap
 

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send me that 5k and ill build you a motor i promise
 

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Are we gonna fight again?? ME FIRST!
 

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People are gonna call me a broken record, but 357w for now and when you boost it you wont have to worry about the block spliting. From the sounds of things your gonna need something strong if you left your balancer in the rearview mirror
 

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Are we gonna fight again?? ME FIRST!
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STOP FOLLOWING ME AROUND!
 

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People are gonna call me a broken record, but 357w for now and when you boost it you wont have to worry about the block spliting. From the sounds of things your gonna need something strong if you left your balancer in the rearview mirror
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just cause the record is broken doesnt mean whats on it is bad
 

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STOP FOLLOWING ME AROUND!
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SCAT Engine Components 1-94110 - Scat Engine Rotating Assemblies - Overview - SummitRacing.com
Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K514-360-350 - Trick Flow® 360 HP Twisted Wedge® Top-End Engine Kits for Ford 5.0L - Overview - SummitRacing.com
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thats a start. i would get a custom cam ground when you decide to boost it. i dont know much about fuel systems so ill let someone else give you advice on that.
 

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If you are gonna spend 5k now on a motor and THEN add boost dont waste your time with a stock 302 block. Especially cause it sounds like your not gonna be using your original block.

Search criagslist for a 351w block, you can get them cheap on there, and they will support around 700hp then...
put a steel crank in it
some decent rods if you can afford it, if not no big deal
a good set of forged pistons
spend money on a good cylinder head TFS CNC 205's are about the best performing 205 head on the market out of the box right now. and they are still pretty affordable.
Get a good intake to match the combo and possibly a custom cam, or just get an of the shelf one for now until you add boost, then go custom.

you could build a nice 357w with a mix of good used parts and some new parts that will make 450rwhp like its not even trying, and for right around your budget if you do it once.

If you use a stock block 302 its almost a guarantee that you will be building 2 motors instead of one, been there done that, wish i built a big windsor. my motors strong, but for the same money i could have had 60 more cubes and tons more power
 

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/\ What he said. I would sell that stock block and buy a 351 and start your build with that. Build it with forged pistons, shoot for around 9:1. Some big 205 trick flows would be nice but you're going to have to figure out what you can use with those strict CA emissions. I would use an F-303 cam. It's an excellent boost cam and they're dirt cheap. The problem is, a stout boost setup isn't going to be a stout n/a setup.
 

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Not necessarily. I guess you would need to define stout, but say he goes the 351 w/the TF 205's and gets somewhere around 400. When it comes time to get some boost 600 or so would be feasible and its still stout. To me that seems stout anyways
 
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