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Fox Brake lines hitting bump stops

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keel

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I’m running LMRs hard brake lines for disc brake conversion on my Fox and I ruptured a brake line by what looks like slamming it into the bump stop on the axle. Has anyone else experienced this? How can I fix this without removing the bump stops?
 

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AeroCoupe

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Bend the bracket that attaches to the axle.
 
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Yes, bend the brackets - more accurately twist them to change the angle slightly so the fitting and tube coming out will miss the bump stop. Also, the brake lines should be tighter up against the axle tubes. There is usually a hold down clip on each axle tube about midway along the axle tube (one mounts with the axle vent).

 
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KRUISR said:
Yes, bend the brackets - more accurately twist them to change the angle slightly so the fitting and tube coming out will miss the bump stop. Also, the brake lines should be tighter up against the axle tubes.
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They were nice and tight against the axle tubes until the metal part of the bump stop bracket pushed them away from the axle.

It's weird that there is no mention of having to do these modifications on LMRs website or install video. All the parts I used were recommended for the install.

These lines were installed like this for ~3000 miles so I'm glad it happened when I was close to home! Got the brake light on the dash and I thought there was something wrong with my parking brake sensor but turns out I was losing fluid fast.
 

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What do you guys think about just cutting off the metal part of the bump stop bracket? Seems like that piece isn't really doing anything and it's what is actually hitting the brake line.
 

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It's your car, but I like to do it right once and done. All the parts to repair it are readily available.
 

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If the dark spot on the axle tube is where the bump stop hits, you shouldn't have needed to modify the brackets. Is the axle moving side to side excessively.

When I did my 5 wheel disc conversion I just used SN95 hoses/brackets.
 

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If the dark spot on the axle tube is where the bump stop hits, you shouldn't have needed to modify the brackets. Is the axle moving side to side excessively.

When I did my 5 wheel disc conversion I just used SN95 hoses/brackets.
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The rubber part of the bump stop clears (barely), the metal part of the bracket sticks out about 1" closer to the brake line which is what sheared through my brake line. I could see witness marks on the metal.

I used 94-95 brake hoses. Which makes me wonder if those cars got a redesigned bump stop situation.
 

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If you switch to the SN95 rear shocks more specifically the Bilsteins then you can remove the bump stops and the brackets as the SN95 shocks have the bump stops built in. I would keep the pinion snubber though.
 
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I wonder if they are just not routed properly.

Here's how mine sit on my axle. LMR hard lines running 94/95 Mustang bracket/softlines (braided)


 
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That's about what mine looks like (or rather looked like) except I'm missing the little brackets that hold the brake line to the axle. I'll see if I can dig some up and put them on.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
I wonder if they are just not routed properly.

Here's how mine sit on my axle. LMR hard lines running 94/95 Mustang bracket/softlines (braided)


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Thats a nice rear end.
 
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@Noobz347 - I think DadLife0724 just picked up his CT…
 
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Get some JUNK OUT OF YOUR TRUNK so no more bump stop, and of course bend the bracket. I don't think I ever hit bump stops, that I know of.

A couple of metal ties(used on heat wrap) will keep em where you want.

I'd leave the brackets, but some people ARENT AS ANAL as I am about installing stuff correctly.
 

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Thinking back. I may have had the springs out and articulated the suspension to try and see if there was contact. I might have tweaked the lines/brackets slightly to get clearance
 

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Qtrhrse23 said:
Get some JUNK OUT OF YOUR TRUNK so no more bump stop, and of course bend the bracket. I don't think I ever hit bump stops, that I know of.

A couple of metal ties(used on heat wrap) will keep em where you want.

I'd leave the brackets, but some people ARENT AS ANAL as I am about installing stuff correctly.
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I mean I was able to drive pretty far without this happening so I don't hit the bump stops often either. Usually I'm pretty particular too about having stuff "correct" but I don't mess around with brakes. If I've gotta modify or remove the bump stop brackets so I don't crash and die then it is what it is.

Going to SN95 shocks and removing the bump stops entirely seems like the most elegant solution but I was hoping to get some more time out of my Koni yellows since they're only about 5 years old. I'll keep you guys posted on what I end up doing.
 
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