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I’ve got a 94 gt and upon removing the lower intake manifold I discovered that 3 of the 4 corner bolts were broken off, I’ve tried heat, I’ve tried lots of penetrating oil, and have tried easy outs over and over. I don’t know what to do as one of the bolts is drilled quite off center and another has a broken extractor in it. Don’t really want to get new heads, so what I need is as much advice as possible for drilling the bolts out and tapping the holes or what else I should do. Thanks in advance
 

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Drop them off at a machine shop.

They can look them over for valves, seats, seals, and flatness, all at the same time.
 
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Noobz347 said:
Drop them off at a machine shop.

They can look them over for valves, seats, seals, and flatness, all at the same time.
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I’ve got a friend who thinks we can drill and tap them coming to help me, but if all else fails, that is definitely something I’ll have to do. thanks for the reply, hopefully I’m successful in drilling and tapping as I don’t really want to pull the heads.
 

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Order yourself some replacement ARP bolts.

Hardware store bolts (Grade 5) will leave you right back where you are.
 

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And may I suggest tapping all of the threads on the heads for the intake bolts. A little dab of anti-seize also helps with removing them at a later date. By a little dab I mean just that or you will look like this:


One further suggestion would be to use studs in lieu of bolts. Just hear me out on this as I see it through tension and torsional forces on the threads. When using a bolt you are imparting torsional forces via screwing the bolt into the threads in the heads while at the same time inducing tensional forces on the threads in the heads as the intake gets torqued down. If you use a stud you are only inducing tensional forces on the threads on the heads as the stud is already screwed into the threads in the heads with zero load on them. When you install the lower intake and then start the process of torquing it down the studs are not twisting like a bolt.

Other nice thing is the studs locate the intake gaskets so you do not get gasket shift. I also think they torque better as I do not have leaks in this area anymore. Get the motor up to operating temp and then retorque one more time and done.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-354-2103?srsltid=AfmBOoomsmtpz3a3OCb6wg2Lyg8qHWMqEc2Uto7BvHS9lRXK4AKrZlyA
 
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Are the bolts stuck in the head or corroded into the intake?

If stuck in the head, I have always welded a nut on the broken bolt and worked it loose. Sometimes I go through a bunch of nuts before the seized bolt starts to move. Then nice part is you don't ruin the threads in the head.
 
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Are the bolts stuck in the head or corroded into the intake?

If stuck in the head, I have always welded a nut on the broken bolt and worked it loose. Sometimes I go through a bunch of nuts before the seized bolt starts to move. Then nice part is you don't ruin the threads in the head.
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They are seized into the head, also I’m not sure I’d be able to weld a nut with the heads still on the car.
 
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Drop them off at a machine shop.

They can look them over for valves, seats, seals, and flatness, all at the same time.
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Welp tomorrow morning I’m gonna pull the heads and call around with the local machine shops, should just leave it to the pros
 
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A couple lists to bounce off of just to make sure you didn't forget anything:

Tools:
ItemNotes
Torque wrenchEssential for proper head bolt torque & pattern
Angle gaugeRequired if using TTY (Torque-To-Yield) head bolts
Breaker barUseful for removing stubborn old bolts
Razor scraper / gasket scraperClean old gasket material from block/head
Thread chaser kitClean bolt holes, especially head bolt threads
Shop vac or compressed airClean out bolt holes before installation
Magnetic pickup toolSave your sanity if anything falls in a valley
Feeler gauge (optional)Useful for checking lifter preload, if reused
Engine hoistIf heads are iron and you're working alone


Parts/Supplies
ItemSpec/Notes
Head gaskets (pair)Fel-Pro 9333PT1 or equivalent
Intake manifold gasketsUpper & lower sets
Exhaust manifold/header gasketsMatch your setup (headers vs stock manifolds)
Head bolts (or studs)One-time-use torque-to-yield — ARP recommended for reuse
Thread sealer or ARP thread lubricantIf using ARP bolts/studs (not all holes are blind)
Anti-seizeFor exhaust bolts, spark plugs, etc.
RTV siliconeFor corners of the intake gasket and end rails
Engine oilFor priming & replacing any drained oil
CoolantYou’ll lose a lot removing heads
Thermostat gasketCheap, always replace if disturbed
Brake cleaner or acetoneFinal cleaning of gasket surfaces
Shop towels / lint-free ragsFor block/head prep and cleanup


Recommended/Optional
ItemPurpose
ARP head studsIf you're planning more power, these are reusable and more secure
Oil dye & UV lightCheck for leaks after reassembly
Replacement pushrods / liftersIf existing ones are worn or noisy
Intake end rail spacers (for EFI)Helps prevent leaks from cork gasket blowout
Coolant bypass hoseMay crack when disturbed during disassembly
 
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Was this? "Intake end rail spacers (for EFI)"

I see a couple parts upon googling, but am unfamiliar. Is it just a replacement for cork china wall gaskets?
 

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Is it just a replacement for cork china wall gaskets?
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Yes. Only difference is that they usually made of aluminum or some kind of phenolic material.
 
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Just put a 1/4"+ bead of RTV that is resistant to oil ( I want to say gray in color) on the china walls and let it sit for 15 min or so. Put the intake on and torque down. Nothing to slip out and does not leak.
 
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Wonder which holds up better when the crankcase gets some pressure from blowby. I vent to atmosphere in the cars that run boost, but I have blown out gaskets when I tried to run the EGR system. The right way to do that is apparently to run a vacuum pump.
 

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I run a closed system with my KB. I ran an additional line and separator and used the inlet leading to the TB as the second vacuum source.

So far, so good.
 

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but isn't that line under pressure when boosted, too?
 

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FastDriver said:
but isn't that line under pressure when boosted, too?
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I can't say for sure. The only time it was ever measured was on the dyno and that time, I still had negative crank-case pressure during boost.

Since then, I've added more boost, and more crank-case scavenging and have not measured case pressure.

Recall though (and you have have forgotten this part), I run a Kenne Bell and not a centrifugal so, even at WOT with my (3.5-4 inch, I've forgotten) inlet, there is "suck" in that line that I've tapped for my second crank-case vent. And that section is [after] my MAF.

With a Centri blower, I would have used the inlet leading up to the blower as my scavenge source.

I will add as a footnote that air volume is the target and not velocity. Too much velocity at the PCV port was responsible for picking up a lot of oil mist. With my second vent, it slowed the air to the PCV enough that it stopped scooping up oil mist (rather, it was greatly reduced).
 

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Mike3 said:
I’ve got a 94 gt and upon removing the lower intake manifold I discovered that 3 of the 4 corner bolts were broken off, I’ve tried heat, I’ve tried lots of penetrating oil, and have tried easy outs over and over. I don’t know what to do as one of the bolts is drilled quite off center and another has a broken extractor in it. Don’t really want to get new heads, so what I need is as much advice as possible for drilling the bolts out and tapping the holes or what else I should do. Thanks in advance
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You put a nut on the top of them, and then fill the center with a mig or flux welder. Then a ton of PB Blaster and heat, and turn off with a wrench. There must be a million videos on youtube on how to do this.

Kurt
 
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