I am not sure how the 93 tunes feel compared to the 87 or 89, but I don't feel a difference between the 87 Per. and 89 torque.
I am not sure how the 93 tunes feel compared to the 87 or 89, but I don't feel a difference between the 87 Per. and 89 torque.I read that article. It is kind of confusing. For one, it uses a baseline number with the HC filter removed. My car does not have that filter (it's an 08), so would my stock power output match their HC-trap-removed baseline, meaning 06+ cars actually have a little more power than 05s? In taht case, then their results are still relevant.
Also, though, it mentions some of them with a tune, some don't mention whether tuned or not. But it also doesn't say if they were tested with the tune that is mentioned in the beginning, or with the stock tune. They're dyno results reflect HP gains over the stock baseline, for example, the JLT picked up 27 horsepower over the baseline of 261. Is this JUST with the CAI, or is it with their base tune, or is it with a JLT specific tune? In any case, I guess that means that I could expect a 27 horsepower incrase with a JLT and tune?
According to that, the JLT makes most power, but C&L is real close. So I guess that means it just comes down to personal preference/looks, huh? If that is it, I'd probably save my $100 and get the JLT.
But, Thumper, how much did DMP charge you for the C&L Racer with the street MAF tube? I would say I am between the racer and the JLT, as they are priced close, both are plastic, and both perform real close.
Pending the answer to that question, I think I am leaning more towards the JLT. Then I just have to decide on tunes. Right now, I am thinking I will get an 89 performance tune, for my usual day to day life. A 93 performance tune, for when I go racing or feel like running 93, and either a 93 race tune, or 89 gas milage tune. Then again, since the difference is really only a couple bucks, I may wind up always running the 93 anyway... Then that leaves my final decision: VMP, Brenspeed, or Bama.... Everyone has something good to say about each one, and they are all priced about the same... SO many decisions!
How significant is the ass-dyno gain from this? Everone says the extra power and reduced drive by wire lag makes a world of difference. The car already feels awesome to me, so I guess it will go from awesome to totally kick ass?
One alst question. If I buy a CAI/tune next week, then decide to get an offroad pipe, will I need a retune, or is that an insignificant enough mod that I will be ok?
Sorry for the long post and thanks for all the information!
Buy the way, They told me about some new parts coming out soon, shooting for 360 rwhp NA!!!!!
And then you can add the cams!!!
this wouldn't be the mysterious intake manifold would it?
this wouldn't be the mysterious intake manifold would it?
It is very confusing. I had to read it 3 times before things started making sense.I read that article. It is kind of confusing. For one, it uses a baseline number with the HC filter removed. My car does not have that filter (it's an 08), so would my stock power output match their HC-trap-removed baseline, meaning 06+ cars actually have a little more power than 05s? In taht case, then their results are still relevant.
Also, though, it mentions some of them with a tune, some don't mention whether tuned or not. But it also doesn't say if they were tested with the tune that is mentioned in the beginning, or with the stock tune.
That's exactly right.ok ok, so the bigger ones like C&L and JLT were tested with that tune, so the results basically say that the intake and tune together added so and so horsepower over the stock 261, right?
That and heads, I have aC&L Street sitting on my bench. Trying to decide on a tuner at this point. Diablo or SCT, Bama or Breenspeed I am so confused.....
I've got a good used predator I'll sell you and have it set up for your specific mods by one of the countries top tuners.
That was my exact thought during the 1st drive after I installed a CAI & tune.....and once I put them on, I bet I'll think "man, I can't believe I actually DEBATED this!"
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