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mytight95

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Sorry for the ignorant question you guys....I wasn't really paying attention to the order of everuthing when i removed my camshaft. So i am wondering if someone has a link to a cam install article.............i want to reinstall it next week after the chain gets here........and start to reassemble the car......so all help is appreciated......

I get the timing chain cover reinstall pretty much.......main thing i was wondering is about the torrington bearing(sp?) and what order that stuff goes in, and the best way to reseal the oil pan, and timing cover without having to replace the oil pan gasket.

pretty mechanically inclined....but this is the first time i have torn the motor down this far......


thanks in advance to those who will help answer my stupid questions again.


later


jason
 

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not a stupid question by anymeans. What I'm wondering is what you are talking about with torington bearings.

Unless you are talking about a 4.6 motor...never touched one of those.

on a 5.0, or any small block ford. But basically you slide the cam in, very carefully so you don't gouge the cam bearings and put the retainer plate on with the bolts and tighten it down to spec. (?)

Then install the top timing chain gear and turn it so the dot is directly at 6 o'clock. Now take the top gear back off, being very carefull not to turn the crank.

Now put the lower gear (crank, small one) one and make sure the dot is at 12 o'clock. You may have to turn the crankshaft to get it there. Now put the t-chain on the lower gear center the top gear as you slide in on. You might have to the top gear a tooth or two get it perfectly centered. It works best if the lower gear ins't in all the way in, put the top gear in the chain, and slowly move both the upper and lower towards the block, keeping top gear parallel with the face of the cam.

I use a manual by Tom Monroe calles "How to Rebuild Small Block Frod Engines". It is very technical. You can get them at Summit Racing, jegs or maybe a bookshop or online. Anyways good luck

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ohh and for the oil pan, go to a parts store and get a timing cover gasket set. IT is a felpro gasket kit that I usually get from Autozone. It comes with the t/c gasket, front seal, oil pan rubber seal, and new oil pan ends.

What you do hear is..

Cut the oil pan gasket off right where the t/c gasket goes, (flush with the block). Put the rubber seal into the bottom of the t/c cover. Now there will be two cork oil pan ends that go on the edge of the t/c cover and the oill pan. You'll have to trim those as they make them long. Once there are trimmed, glue them in place with a gasket adhesive and let it set up. Put some rtv one the end of the rubber where the cork end fits. place the timing chain over the front of the crank, and get the bolts started. there are instructions in the gasket kit, so if I confused you, sorry. This kit is made for cam swaps. Just take your time and it will be fine.
 

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cool info man thanks..........i will prolly get one of those hi po manuals if books a million carries them....Or anywhere else like that.


thanks again............the bearing i was talking about came with my timing chain........it is a disc like bearing about the same size as the end of the cam??????


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mytight95 said:
cool info man thanks..........i will prolly get one of those hi po manuals if books a million carries them....Or anywhere else like that.


thanks again............the bearing i was talking about came with my timing chain........it is a disc like bearing about the same size as the end of the cam??????


jason
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Oh your talking about the thrust bearing...my Rollmaster timing chain came with one...here is what you do...put that "bearing" behind the cam sprocket (timing chain) between the cam and cam sprocket...

Make sure the bearing doesn't fall down off the timing chain (if you tapping it on because it will want to fall out of place and that would cause binding)...I used some of the assembly lube I had and it made it stay in place so I could tap the timing chain on...

Just set your crank with the keyway on the crank facing 12 o'clock and make sure the cam sprocket is "dot" is facing at 6 o'clock...the dowel pin lines up on my Rollmaster basically makes it idiot proof to install the cam wrong because there is only one hole to put it in...

But just but that (mine was thin and brass) thrust bearing between the cam end and timing chain cam sprocket...make sure it seats evenly...

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yeah thats it thanks for the help


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mytight95 said:
yeah thats it thanks for the help


jason
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So did you get it on?...on the back of my cam sprocket it has a little place where you can tell where it is supposed to seat against if that helps with the placement...

Glad you got it figured out...
 

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yeah man......thanks for your help.........if i stumble into another problem i will post it up


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im thinking about doing a cam swap...never have before....does this involve tearing off the upper and lower intake manifolds??? im sure it will to get to the pushrods and lifters right?? or is there an easier way to do it without ripping the intakes off???
 

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IMPORTSMOKER said:
im thinking about doing a cam swap...never have before....does this involve tearing off the upper and lower intake manifolds??? im sure it will to get to the pushrods and lifters right?? or is there an easier way to do it without ripping the intakes off???
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Yeah you can do it without taking off the lower intake...but you'll have to remove the valve covers, rocker arms, pushrods, and can use a special set of tools to lift up the lifters...they are like long magnets that go down in your pushrod hole in your heads and pull up your lifters and you can swivel a little arm to keep the lifters up while you install a cam...its hard to explain without a pic...I know 50resto used to sell that "kit" but I can't seem to find it...

You will also have to take off the fan, radiator, waterpump, harmonic balancer, timing cover, and timing chain...and of course a few gaskets...

If your going to get a cam...I would get a nice set of heads with it also...
 
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