thumper460 said:Actually the cam is the key to performance... MORE so than Heads!!
and the smaller grinds ( FMS E, B, F and the TFS 1 and 2s) are ground FOR stock heads!!
The heart of the engine, or Brain IS camshaft... NOT Heads!!
you can get 400 HP with stock heads and the right camshaft and induction!!
There is too much BS put on needing heads to go fast!! Or the heads NEED to be the first mod, befor the car will go faster... sorry but.. cam and induction..
there is a LOT of power in the stock heads, befor you NEED to step up!! ( however by todays standards it seems the othere way) !!
YOU will enjoy the addl power from the cam... and yes, IT wont be as effective as some ported or aftermarket heads... But the POWER will be there with the right cam choice!!
Get the gears.. fuel system adjusted correct, timing ,and the TFS1 and He will rock!!
Just me..........................
Thumper
5spd GT said:Ed you know to much
You got any ideas on keeping my valvetrain from being noisy?...It has gotten noiser the last couple weeks...the combo has been running for about a month and a half...Is it just the lockdown nuts on the Scorpions not holding...I tightened them till they made a "pop" sound...
thumper460 said:Hi EDC how ya been??
I guess this is just another one of the Head things.. LOL !!
I thought the guy wanted to know what cam and was he going to feel the power... NOT aftermarket VS stock or ported... how did THAT even get in there?
are we talking stock unported heads or ported stock (125cc cores) heads.
if you are talking ported stock heads,
The superstock guys are getting 475-525 hp out of a ported 125cc casting even retaining stock 1.78/1.46 valve sizes. depending on the casting, the finished inlet volume is around 144-150cc's.
please bare in mind these 289's doing this are running a 450 crfm autolite (64/65ford), 600 cfm autolite (64merc), 600 holley (85 5.0)
**If you are wanting stock unported heads check the stock guys. Ihave done a few combos that ran low low 12's with unported heads at 3000#. and these were basically 'throw together' motors. No special parts are weird items. usually turning less than 6000 or a just a tad higher
Ed ( who???) has done them. lots have done them. but its nothing new.
***When Superstock was not allowing ported heads, they here getting 375-400 hp still using the stock carbs.
with the valve train advances, now the stock class cars are getting close to 350 with 125cc heads.
getting a small block ford to run is not new to the 5.0 crowd. They were getting 400hp out of the 289's in 65 and 66 with ported stock heads and nice old school cams)
I have been involved in recent build-up of an oldschool motor using ported original gt40 heads ('66 vintage-over the counter ford parts) and we got 435hp with newer camming (flat tappet solid) compared to the 375 that the equal set-up was getting in the 60's
buddy
(Posted Corral 12/03 Power from ported and stock heads)
Just me..............................
Thumper
There's nothing wrong with adding a cam without upgrading the heads, as long as you have a good exhaust system. The next step would be induction then heads. You just don't want to get to crazy with the cam. You will notice a nice increase in power with a cam, headers, intake. However, you change the heads, and things really wake up.Critter_04 said:With this setup do you recomend getting a new cam and if so what kind?
1992 mustang GT with BBK equal length headers, a march performance cold air intake, 5.0 Pro shifter.
Oh and what should i do next to my car?
1Slow5oh said:I think your all thinking way to far ahead of this guy.
Yes adding heads/intake will give him a better gain but alot of poeple dont have the cash to throw around like some of you high rollers here.
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