Can I beat a Firebird (LS1)?

sig1029

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They can be beat in town...like said before...with 4.10s and some sticky tires...but this is stoplight racing...

Past about 60 mph it is all down hill from there...

Have a friend with a 2001 Firehawk that dynoed stock except a lid (air intake) with 332.3rwhp 348.9tq SAE. LS1's are really underrated.

My mods are in sig and everytime we go to the track/in town I have him up to 60 or so...then he just starts walking...

 

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01mgvert

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With my mods, it sounds like my best chance is 0-60 mph. With the gearing of the Firebird (LS1), a highway roll-on from 50-100 mph would be futile. It's time to go hunting.

 

LS2 KLR

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Even stock gts should be able to take an LS1 up to 50, maybe 60mph. After that it gets ugly. With your mods your most likely making 260-270rwhp while stock LS1s make 300-325rwhp. Due to weight and gearing it should be pretty close in the 1/4 with you having the lower speed advantage. You should be able to run at least mid 13s if you can drive and a "well" driven LS1 will hit 13.1-3. I say it would be a drivers race.

 

stang976

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i think it will have a lot to do with the drivers of the 2 cars. if the firebird is 5spd and he is a weak driver who loves to granny shift, then the world is yours.

 

Redfire03GT

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This boggles me.

Too many people either don't know or keep forgetting that the LS1 f-bodies are underrated. The lowest I think I've heard of an LS1 dyno'n at stock was around 290rwhp. Even with as much as I'm pushing at the moment, which isn't much at all, I know for a fact that a well driven LS1 *should* handle me after 3rd gear. Different gear ratios, different power curves, 5-speed vs 6-speed, etc.

Besides, there's too many variables in a race. The whole, could I, would I stuff doesn't matter. Just try it and find out. Hope that you drive well and he doesn't.

 

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LeadSled1

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To give you an idea outside of rwhp numbers, my stock 01 WS6 traped 109.46 mph. The car was rated at 325hp from the factory.

 

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Rocketman

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Just to give another opinion here. I dyno'd 225 RWHP with my auto and that was before I installed the Accufab TB/P.

 

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01mgvert

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Redfire03GT said:

Besides, there's too many variables in a race. The whole, could I, would I stuff doesn't matter. Just try it and find out. Hope that you drive well and he doesn't.

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I went looking for an LS1 this morning. No luck. I'll keep looking and post the results in talk.

 

jstreet0204

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01mgvert said:

I went looking for an LS1 this morning. No luck. I'll keep looking and post the results in talk.

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You have similar mods to mine, and I can pretty consistently beat near stock ls1's (including my buddy's stock WS6) in the 8th, so don't believe all the hype. We dont have a 1/4 mile track around here but I'd guess that after the 8th it would be a different story. Gears go along way in a short race.

 

GTsleeper

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Redfire03GT said:

This boggles me.

Too many people either don't know or keep forgetting that the LS1 f-bodies are underrated. The lowest I think I've heard of an LS1 dyno'n at stock was around 290rwhp. Even with as much as I'm pushing at the moment, which isn't much at all, I know for a fact that a well driven LS1 *should* handle me after 3rd gear. Different gear ratios, different power curves, 5-speed vs 6-speed, etc.

Besides, there's too many variables in a race. The whole, could I, would I stuff doesn't matter. Just try it and find out. Hope that you drive well and he doesn't.

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Couldn't say it better myself, just go out and do it. Its all in the driver light to light, the highway well thats a different story. Good Luck! Any more questions with F-bodies just line them up and see. SLP is having it out in October so we will definently find out.