Car died, wont start.

[The Green GT]

I was on the way home and my car started bucking, it wouldnt accellerate. I popped it in N and revved it up and it wouldnt revv but halfway. It started backfiring and my shift light was flashing even though it wasnt redlining.

I parked it, pulled the codes, and got a 211.
Profile Ignition Pick-up circuit fault

Would this cause this, what do I need to fix it, where is it, how much is whatever I need to change, and will I be able to get it started to get it home before I change this?

Thanks

EDIT: I already checked all the wires and the coil. They are fine.

 

[SeventyMach1]

Profile Ignition Pick Up .....


Also known as "Hall Effect sensor". Also known as "stator". Also known as "PIP". Do a search on here with these words and you will find all the info. you need on it. They're not very expensive .... but can be a little tedious on the install. Good luck man.

 

[SeventyMach1]

Reflecting on an old post .....


You may want to just replace the whole dizzy instead of screwing with the PIP thing. That appears to be the easiest way to go.


Also, before you go throwing parts on it .... check for injector pulsing because it could still possibly be the TFI module that crapped out.

 

[The Green GT]

Ok, how do I go about checking the injector pulsing?

 

[HISSIN50]

As Justin said, the PIP is likely. It is responsible for base injector and spark timing. Obviously the give-away test is if you can verify both spark and injector pulsing are missing when the car acts up, it's likely the PIP.

You use a noid light to check injector pulsing. I think you might be able to get away using an LED test light if you dont have a noid light (Basically, if the light you uses does anything, the PIP should be ok. If the light stays cold, the PIP probably isnt doing anything).

You can spray some electrical contact cleaner on the PIP to wake them back up sometimes (wake them back up for a few mins - not a permanant thing). The contact cleaner cools them and washes the window/shudder off.

A new/reman'd dizzy like Justin mentioned isnt an all bad idea. If you do install just a new PIP instead (on your old dizzy), ensure your dizzy bushing is in good shape before hand - otherwise you can hose a new PIP.

I'd note that with some reman'd dizzies, if it came into the store with a good PIP, they might have left the OEM PIP on the dizzy. One tell is that the reman' companies often dont take the time to re-align the roll pin holes - they blast new a new hole instead. So if you check out a reman'd dizzy at the store and see an old hole, chances are that someone replaced the PIP (at some point atleast). This is all one reason that these reman'd dizzies are often LLT.

Good luck Eric.

 

[Guero]

Check ur Coil to. When mine went bad my shift light was also going of, and my rpm gauge also jumped. It also kept poppping a fuse though. Cheaper than replacing a dizzy if thats no ur problem

 

[The Green GT]

How much does a reman dizzy cost and what exactly is involved in replacing it?

Doing just the PIP sound like too much of a PITA.

And Im pretty sure its not my coil since I got that code, but ill look at it too. The shift light thing was wierd. The tach was jummping, but it WAS showing the engins RPM. The engine was going crazy. It actually started when I was on the way to mu friends house. When I would start off, the car would almost fall flat on its face, then pic back up. Then I would shift to 2nd and it would fall on it face at the same RPM. It reminded me of when my CAI fell off and I was getting unmetered air.

 

[The Green GT]

Ok, so I need to take the rotor out the dist, then undo the two bolts and remove that piece and thats what Im looking for?

Also how do I test the injector with a test light? just stick the wire?

 

[The Green GT]

Ok, I tested the injectors with a test light and it gors hot as soon as the key is turned on. It dosent pulse.

And how do I get to the stator? I see it but I cant even get my finger in there.

 

[HISSIN50]

To test injectors you want the test light (or noid light if you have it) biased across the injector connector. The injectors get key-on constant 12 volts and the ground is what the computer modulates to excite the injector.

To replace the PIP, you remove the dizzy. To spray it down, you can remove the dizzy cap and rotor and hose down inside the bowl.

 

[The Green GT]

By dizzy you guys mean distributor right?

Ive never heard it called that before I posted here.

I was messing with it, changed the coil. It started RIGHT up. Then died immediately. But that was the fastest its ever started.
I guess Ill just change the dist.