Cheap headers any good? Flowtech 1 5/8" longtubes for $125...

H

hdawg06

New Member

Jan 8, 2006

42

0

0

Jan 1, 2007

#1

• Jan 1, 2007

• #1

I saw these on 50resto today, and are the 1 5/8" longtube headers any good? Link! They are $125 new. Do they fit right and how is installation? Should I opt for the BBK for $100 more?

They also have the ceramic coated header for $250. Link 2!

My friend and I were discussing these for his car, '92 LX(5-speed). He isn't certain on what he is going to do at the moment, but is leaning towards 100shot of nitrous, suspension, and probably a cam and intake for starters. Would the 1 5/8" headers be the best bet here? The BBK ones I was referring to are $215 for 1 5/8" and $300 for 1 7/8", non ceramic coated. He doesn't have a huge budget, but would what would be best? Would he see a significant difference up top with a h/c/i+100shot in hp with the 1/8" difference? I am meaning like 20+hp?

Thanks in advance for the feedback on the cheap headers.

 

ozanracing

New Member

Nov 28, 2006

172

0

0

Jan 1, 2007

#2

• Jan 1, 2007

• #2

Summit sells long tubes for like $96. Fit/work great. look into those.

 

H

hdawg06

New Member

Jan 8, 2006

42

0

0

Jan 1, 2007

#3

• Jan 1, 2007

• #3

ozanracing said:

Summit sells long tubes for like $96. Fit/work great. look into those.

Click to expand...

What kind of H-pipe goes with that? Or would it have to be a custom H-pipe welded on? We did a full exhaust setup with bbk headers, or h-pipe, and cheap catback for right at $520 shipped to the door from 50resto. I really would prefer us not having to have custom fabbed stuff hooked up and costing more than the bbk in the end. We can't weld...

 

txstang84

15 Year Member

May 21, 2005

1,639

42

69

Tuscola, tx

Jan 1, 2007

#4

• Jan 1, 2007

• #4

you should be able to modify your existing h-pipe for the long tubes, otherwise, go ahead and get some custom stuff bent...

 

mustangman9812

10 Year Member

Jan 14, 2004

661

6

49

Mars Hill, NC

Jan 1, 2007

#5

• Jan 1, 2007

• #5

When getting any type of headers look at the Header Flange. Dont wont nothing under 5/16" and really dont wont it under 3/8"

 

I

importhater5.0

New Member

May 15, 2003

94

0

0

West Chester, Pa

Jan 1, 2007

#6

• Jan 1, 2007

• #6

i know in summit they have the BBK longtubes for around 300 bucks, and they sell an H pipe for the long tubes, also from BBK for 125 dollaz. DOnt know if thats outta the price range, but thats an easy hookup. I have had 2 sets of BBK headers, not ceramic, just chrome, and i thought they were well worth the money, and they lasted a long time, and they are made really well. I had a set of Flowtechs on my beater truck, a 91 Ford F-250, and i bought them cause they were cheap, like $100 or something. ANd they were the biggest pieces of crap i ever put on, the holes didnt line up for the bolts, so i had to ream them out, and you couldnt even get the one spark plug in so i had to beat the tube in a little so the plug would clear! Maybe other people had better experiences, but i wont buy any Flowtech junk again. and they rusted and looked like manure in about a month! hey good luck!

 

I

importhater5.0

New Member

May 15, 2003

94

0

0

West Chester, Pa

Jan 1, 2007

#7

• Jan 1, 2007

• #7

Hey just remember, 3/8 is bigger than 5/16". I think MustangMan just got it backwards by accident.............i hope!

 

H

hdawg06

New Member

Jan 8, 2006

42

0

0

Jan 1, 2007

#8

• Jan 1, 2007

• #8

Yeah. We were leaning towards the BBK originally, but the 1 5/8" ones. I had a pair on my Mach1 that were easy to install, and sounded great, and another guy around here has a pair on his notch. I thought they were made well, and fit perfectly. Maybe we will just stick with those. Plus, the H-pipe for them is only $120, so he would be looking at $350 for headers/orh if he didn't get a catback for a while.

 

mustangman9812

10 Year Member

Jan 14, 2004

661

6

49

Mars Hill, NC

Jan 1, 2007

#9

• Jan 1, 2007

• #9

Yeh Sorry

 

89streetbeast

New Member

Dec 4, 2006

365

1

0

horton,ks

Jan 1, 2007

#10

• Jan 1, 2007

• #10

im pondering the idea of the flowtechs myself. i'd keep the ones i got but the bottom primarys for the collector are half smashed so its time to buy new.

 

B

blownfordtech92

Founding Member

Oct 20, 2001

247

0

0

Iowa

Jan 1, 2007

#11

• Jan 1, 2007

• #11

I just got done helping my cousin put a set of Flowtech long tubes on his 86 5.0 conversion (with C-4) and they are major JUNK! They rub the frame on both sides or come very close and at least one spark plug he said he couldn't get in without beating some clearance. Also the bolt access is horrible. I would get something else.

 

I

importhater5.0

New Member

May 15, 2003

94

0

0

West Chester, Pa

Jan 1, 2007

#12

• Jan 1, 2007

• #12

i dunno, im just goin from my experience. i mean the Flowtechs had crappy flanges and everything,they were pretty thin. At least the bbks had nice thick 3/8" . THe overall quality of the Flowtechs i had were just junk, the welds sucked, and like i said, they didnt even fit right! but hey thats JMO

 

H

hdawg06

New Member

Jan 8, 2006

42

0

0

Jan 1, 2007

#13

• Jan 1, 2007

• #13

Thanks for the feedback guys, it really helped. I told my friend about them, and he said he was going to opt for the BBK. Just one last question, for a nitrous+c/i and maybe heads, would 1 5/8" be fine, or should I opt for $75 more and get 1 3/4"? Would he even see a 10whp difference once tuned on the dyno?

 

Maryland Stang

Active Member

Aug 21, 2002

1,656

30

39

Greenville, NC

Jan 2, 2007

#14

• Jan 2, 2007

• #14

hdawg06 said:

Thanks for the feedback guys, it really helped. I told my friend about them, and he said he was going to opt for the BBK. Just one last question, for a nitrous+c/i and maybe heads, would 1 5/8" be fine, or should I opt for $75 more and get 1 3/4"? Would he even see a 10whp difference once tuned on the dyno?

Click to expand...

Unless you're going to see a whole lot of really high RPM (over 6500) then get the 1-5/8" with 2.5" exhaust. A 302 is a 302 and it only needs a specific amount of exhaust flow at a given RPM regardless of HP. Get too big a header and it kills exhaust volecity.

 

1

1SLO306

My 97 GTP owns you ALL!

Mar 31, 2005

904

1

17

Muhlenberg, ky

Jan 2, 2007

#15

• Jan 2, 2007

• #15

flowtech are good but if u dont get the ceramic coated then that will look like **** after a will. i had a pair and they werent pretty. thats the only reason i didnt like to raise the hood.