Cheap main girdle ?

superstang79

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Im in the process of building my 351W. i have all the internals, just waiting on a carb/fuel pumps/oil pan.

anyway, i bought a cheap CAT stud girdle off ebay. I got it, it doesnt look bad, but im a bit leary on using it. couple of questions for the pros:

Question 1: im concerned about flatness, if it is not perfectly flat will it make a difference? i dont know the machining process, and dont know how flat it is or if it matters..

Question 2: should i use the studs/spacers/washers/nuts that came with the kit, or buy ARP?

Question 3: should i return the damn thing and take a hit on it? or use it and risk damaging something?

Question 4: is anybody using one of these things? opinions?

Thanks guys--

Andy
 
sounds kind of like a pos to me.

i wouldnt use anything that would bring up thoughts of damaging your engine. i have a little engineering experience, and it isint all that complicated to keep it flat assuming it was a cnc machined piece?

i would return it and get something that is definately good quality.
 
88SC_GT said:
i wouldnt use anything that would bring up thoughts of damaging your engine. i have a little engineering experience, and it isint all that complicated to keep it flat assuming it was a cnc machined piece?

I'm not arguing that it's a cheap piece and you'd be better off returning it, but from an engineer / machinist standpoint on the keeping it flat, if the part was cut from a piece of off-the-shelf bar stock and was then cut to be a stud girdle (lots of material removed), then internal stresses in the steel would be relieved and cause it to warp. Damn steel will relieve itself all over you :crazy:

So even if you cut it flat on a CNC machine, when you take it out of the fixture, it could still be a potato chip when you remove it. The correct (i.e. most expensive) way to make them is to stress relieve the material first, cut it, then re-heat treat it if necessary.

Hope I didn't go too much O.T. here guys, but CNC machining is a bit of a specialty for me. :D
 
i just have experience in a highschool course i was in this year using basic machines and some experience on a dyna.

we only used aluminum, 6061 mainly and never had it release stress after removing it from the clamps/fixtures.

either way though, it sounds like a pos to me. :shrug:
 
Well, cheap would be the key word here. I have learned my lesson with cheap parts. I would take it to your local performance shop and let them take a look at it. Be sure to ask them to be honest with you, as they would probably tell you its no good so you would buy a new one from them.