Chinese Cobra Intake or Chinese Typhoon Intake?

[dubbsix]

Since both parts are made in china, which is best? Looks like the rectangular ports on the typhoon will yield better breathing, while the round ports on the cobra intake increases torque...

Any comments?

 

[Shakerhood]

Maybe try to find an Original Cobra instead of the new Replica.

 

[dubbsix]

yea that would work too, but my problem is that people who sell original cobras want 500 bucks for them, when i could spend a little more and get a trick flow and edelbrock.

 

[mustanggt5pt0]

I have the chinese cobra rep. Just make sure call FRPP and grab the new baffle for it.

 

[dubbsix]

Is it hard to put the new baffle on it?

 

[Shakerhood]

yea that would work too, but my problem is that people who sell original cobras want 500 bucks for them, when i could spend a little more and get a trick flow and edelbrock.

There was 1 on Ebay last week that was still new in the Box, it was at $287 with about 12 hours of Bidding left.

 

[dubbsix]

Oh then i stand corrected, but most of the time i dont find them to be much of a deal.

so does anyone have a opinion on the casting quality of either intake? I know the cobra rep requires a baffle, but what about the typhoon?

 

[poneypower89]

The china made cobra replica has less casting imperfections (from my experience) than the typhoon. With that said, people run both and say good/bad things about either one.

 

[dubbsix]

Cool thanks for the post. Im thinking i'll run with the cobra and go with the improved baffle. Doesnt the typhoon breathe better than the cobra because of the ports?

 

[poneypower89]

The typhoon is an Edelbrock RPM copy. Which is SUPPOSED to be a better breathing intake than the Cobra.

The Typhoon/Eddy is setup for a little higher rpm range though.. while the Cobra sites VERY nicely on lightly modded or stock cars (although they can push some serious power too).

 

[Bullitt347]

I would not buy the China intakes. "one has less imperfections than the other"? Why not just pay a little more and get one that does not have any imperfections? Have you ever set one on an engine and looked at the serious port mismatch that they have. It may look good on its own off of the engine, but man from what I have seen, you will leave a lot of H.P. on the table if you run one. This is still one area that you get what you pay for IMHO. It is one thing to "save" money and another to waste it on cheap junk. There is a reason it is cheap, there is no R&D in those intakes at all. Just a "copy", maybe a good looking copy, but not a good working copy.

 

[poneypower89]

One could bash them...

but talk to Dman, Sonic Cherry, and who was it BlackStangGt*something*.

Two of them are show stopping cars (both making good power)

and the blackstangwhatever (cant remember the screen name) was making 405rwhp using e7 heads, the typoon intake and the small sc-trim vortech blower. I've seen TFS top end cars with blowers fall short of that. Just something to think about. This hobby can be done two ways. You spend every nickel and dime you got to be fast (buying power)... or, you scrounge around looking for "junk" that no one else wants and you put a hurt on the bought power guys at the track. You just gotta be able to tell when something is "too cheap and crappy" and when something is "cheap, not perfect, but it WILL work"

With that said, if one were to buy the typhoon intake and spend some time matching up the ports themselfs they will have a nice performing piece that they saved some money on.

Also, to the original poster. If you are just looking for a cheap and good performing intake then consider finding a used intake off of a 5.0 Explorer. They are the same as gt-40 and cobra intakes but without the casting problems of the chinese replicas.

 

[Curse]

If your car is bone stock, I wouldn't go for the Typhoon(unless you're planning further mods). My car was a dog down low with the typhoon and stock motor.

 

[Bullitt347]

Point taken, BUT. If your time is worth anything then you really did not save any money buying the cheap intake, compared to buying the original and just bolting it on. If we both built identical engines, and you use the china intake out of the box, no "fixing" the damn thing, and I used an original out of the box, I will out H.P you EVERY TIME! If you want to port the thing, and I get to spend the same amount of time porting the original, I still will out H.P you every time. So it comes down to if you value your time and effort. I would rather work smart than waste time fixing a bad casting, but that is just me. If you have time to kill and nothing better to do, and your bored, then maybe the china syndrome is the way to go. Nothing personal, just my preference for what it is worth.

 

[jtfairlane]

I would not buy the China intakes. "one has less imperfections than the other"? Why not just pay a little more and get one that does not have any imperfections? Have you ever set one on an engine and looked at the serious port mismatch that they have. It may look good on its own off of the engine, but man from what I have seen, you will leave a lot of H.P. on the table if you run one. This is still one area that you get what you pay for IMHO. It is one thing to "save" money and another to waste it on cheap junk. There is a reason it is cheap, there is no R&D in those intakes at all. Just a "copy", maybe a good looking copy, but not a good working copy.

+1

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

Point taken, BUT. If your time is worth anything then you really did not save any money buying the cheap intake, compared to buying the original and just bolting it on. If we both built identical engines, and you use the china intake out of the box, no "fixing" the damn thing, and I used an original out of the box, I will out H.P you EVERY TIME! If you want to port the thing, and I get to spend the same amount of time porting the original, I still will out H.P you every time. So it comes down to if you value your time and effort. I would rather work smart than waste time fixing a bad casting, but that is just me. If you have time to kill and nothing better to do, and your bored, then maybe the china syndrome is the way to go. Nothing personal, just my preference for what it is worth.

I'm not trying to start a pi*sing match, but do you have any evidence to prove anything you said regarding making more HP with the original casting, versus the one made in China? And why would you make more power with the same amount of time in porting? If you ported both identically, you'd end up with the same variation you'd see from two original castings, unless of course you were to cut the upper plenum open and port it, to ensure exacting tolerances were met.

My opinion, get the Cobra, or try to find the tubular GT40 intake, chinese or otherwise. The Typhoon is just too much intake for a stock engine, IMO.

 

[poneypower89]

I'm not trying to start a pi*sing match, but do you have any evidence to prove anything you said regarding making more HP with the original casting, versus the one made in China? And why would you make more power with the same amount of time in porting? If you ported both identically, you'd end up with the same variation you'd see from two original castings, unless of course you were to cut the upper plenum open and port it, to ensure exacting tolerances were met.

I didn't want to start a fight either.. but that was pretty much my thoughts.

Given equal time to "port" instead of just clean up would yeild two identicle intakes.

True, time is money... but we aren't making any cruising stangnet. Might as well save some grinding some metal in the garage.

 

[93 LX]

so where do I get a budget Cobra intake?

Allen

 

['66 coupe]

Given equal time to "port" instead of just clean up would yeild two identicle intakes.

I think this is the key to what he was saying.
Equal time, not equal ports. The intake that provides the better foundation before porting will take less time to get good flow numbers out of.

Just like the guy that's building his house and already has frames, is gonna be done before the guy starting with tree trunks.

 

[poneypower89]

so where do I get a budget Cobra intake?

Allen

U look in Junkyards and Ebay for "Explorer" intakes. Thats your budget intake. The chinese replica isn't really "budget" imo as its still 300+ bucks.