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6Stang7

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anyone know where i can buy just the ball bearings other then MustangSteve? they want $40 which is why too much for a set of bearings. they dont have to be made specificly for this swap, just ball bearings that will work.
 

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Any bearing supply house can get you what you need. Look in the phone book for a local one and ask if the sell to retail customers. If they do, then give them an outside diameter and an inside diameter and you're set. Be prepared to give some other info like do you want a sealed bearing (yes) as well as a general width. Good luck!
 

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He's not selling just the bearings for $40.00. He modifies your quadrent to use ball bearings with it. You'd have to cut the existing holes wider in diameter and then weld in the bearing retainer, for the bearing to slide in, if your going to do it yourself. If I had my quadrant out I would show you what it looks like in a better view perspective. Looks good, I don't have a problem with it - I can change the bearings anytime by removing the clutch pedal, and slide the bearings right out (but I'll never need to change them), just my pedal shaft is worn...
 
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There is more involved than just slappin in bearings.

Here is how I did mine

http://www.2mfffabshop.com/pdlasy.htm
 
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$40 sounds reasonable to me. You think he works for free? I'm sure he's probably got a family to support like many of us.
 

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NPD sell replacement bushings that have rollers in them, so it's just like replacing bushings. They are $35 adn $50 with a replacement shaft. Page 43 of their latest catalogue.
 

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D.Hearne said:
$40 sounds reasonable to me. You think he works for free? I'm sure he's probably got a family to support like many of us.
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i understand all that, but $40 for 2 roller bearings seems way too much for me. i can understand having to mark up the price to make some money off of it (like any middle man does), but there is a point when it's too much. i can do the whole install myself, i just wanna buy the bearings at a reasonable price.
 

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gp001 said:
There is more involved than just slappin in bearings.

Here is how I did mine

http://www.2mfffabshop.com/pdlasy.htm
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where did you get the bearings from?
 

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6Stang7 said:
where did you get the bearings from?
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See? That's part of it too. You're not just paying for the bearings, but also the knowledge of what bearings to use and where to get them. That's the tradeoff -- you can spend the time and effort to figure everything out yourself and perhaps get it wrong the first couple of times, or you can pay a bit more to a reputable vendor who has done the hard part for you. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the first option, in fact it's what I personally prefer, just recognize that there's more of a reason for markup than just to "make some money off it".
 
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6Stang7 said:
where did you get the bearings from?
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From a local supply house I use. But how are you going to mount the bearings??? If I didn't have access to a machining buddy that owed me big time and made the retainers I would have purchased the kit from Mustang Steve.
 

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reenmachine said:
See? That's part of it too. You're not just paying for the bearings, but also the knowledge of what bearings to use and where to get them. That's the tradeoff -- you can spend the time and effort to figure everything out yourself and perhaps get it wrong the first couple of times, or you can pay a bit more to a reputable vendor who has done the hard part for you. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the first option, in fact it's what I personally prefer, just recognize that there's more of a reason for markup than just to "make some money off it".
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huh? i dont know where to buy them. i know plenty about the bearings themselves (i'm a mechanical engineering major here). there is nothing hard here design wise, it all boils down to there not being a bearing store anywhere near me.
 

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gp001 said:
From a local supply house I use. But how are you going to mount the bearings??? If I didn't have access to a machining buddy that owed me big time and made the retainers I would have purchased the kit from Mustang Steve.
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i can use my old high schools metal shop if need be, but i do have an end mill and lath at home. i also have access to a CNC mill.
 
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huh? i dont know where to buy them. i know plenty about the bearings themselves (i'm a mechanical engineering major here). there is nothing hard here design wise, it all boils down to there not being a bearing store anywhere near me.
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Your professors don't know where you can get these locally? Other engineering students? I can't imagne there not being an industrial supply in an area where there is a college that has a mechanical engineering program.

Try google? One of the places it will return is Mcmaster-Carr.
 

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i havent asked anyone else yet. i pulled my mounting braket out yesterday.
 
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I'd like to see the look on your face the first time you take the time and effort to design and market something, only to have somebody rip your efforts with the complaint that you're charging too much for a simple job that he could have done cheaper, if only he had the time. I went thru something similar last year in selling a 71-351W block(std bore). I was asking $175 for it, if I'm not mistaken, but had multiple complaints that it wasn't worth the asking price. I took MY time to find it, strip the motor down to the bare block, take it to an auto machinist to have it cleaned and mag'd to give it a clean bill of health, but to those who said I was asking too much, I simply invited them to get one on their own. In the end a guy from N. Carolina paid me $260 for it.
 

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Mc Master and Grainger are good places for all kinds of misc. parts. You might even have local warehouses. I know we do here in Minneapolis.

If you're like me, half the fun is figuring it out. That's why I went into mechanical engineering. Some times it is worth the money to have the car on the road a little more of the time, but I can sure remember the ramen noodle student days. Why pay $40 for a bearing when you can pay $3? As long as you can locate the equipment to do the job.

edit: wow, what a rambling, ugly post! Hehe. My point is I can see both sides. I know I've been bitten before where my "cheap" way ended up costing a ton of time and even more money as well rather than just going with off the shelf.
 

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D.Hearne said:
I'd like to see the look on your face the first time you take the time and effort to design and market something, only to have somebody rip your efforts with the complaint that you're charging too much for a simple job that he could have done cheaper, if only he had the time. I went thru something similar last year in selling a 71-351W block(std bore). I was asking $175 for it, if I'm not mistaken, but had multiple complaints that it wasn't worth the asking price. I took MY time to find it, strip the motor down to the bare block, take it to an auto machinist to have it cleaned and mag'd to give it a clean bill of health, but to those who said I was asking too much, I simply invited them to get one on their own. In the end a guy from N. Carolina paid me $260 for it.
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shoot D. if i had known you had a 351w block for sale, and i had the money, and the cargo room, i would have paid you $175 knowing that it was ready to build. people can be so stupid at times.
 

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D.Hearne said:
I'd like to see the look on your face the first time you take the time and effort to design and market something, only to have somebody rip your efforts with the complaint that you're charging too much for a simple job that he could have done cheaper, if only he had the time.
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rip it off? this isnt some complex design here which required a massive amount of engineering. it's sticking a bearing with it's race into a hole. mustang steve wasnt even the first to do this. there is a mustang shop in near me that has been doing this (they want $50 for just teh bearings). i'm sorry, i dont see replacing a plastic bushing with a bearing as being some great engineering feat.
 
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6Stang7 said:
rip it off? this isnt some complex design here which required a massive amount of engineering. it's sticking a bearing with it's race into a hole. mustang steve wasnt even the first to do this. there is a mustang shop in near me that has been doing this (they want $50 for just teh bearings). i'm sorry, i dont see replacing a plastic bushing with a bearing as being some great engineering feat.
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But apparently you have had problems in getting it done, haven't you? Otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread If it was so easy, why haven't you done it yet?
 
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shoot D. if i had known you had a 351w block for sale, and i had the money, and the cargo room, i would have paid you $175 knowing that it was ready to build. people can be so stupid at times.
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I've got another 351W block ready to go. Want it?
 
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